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Aquaticus 05-07-2023 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN (Post 3633760)
What does that even mean? Do you have me confused with someone else trying to get on with UAL? United was never my top choice. I was always gunning for Delta or American. I’m only here to get updates on any progress with your negotiations. I’m hopeful your pilot group sets a new bar for pattern bargaining purposes but it’s looking doubtful.

It’s entertaining, you play yourself off as just bringing a positive outlook to the United threads, but you’re actually a rhapsody blue kool-aid drinking management shill. That’s why you get nasty real quick when someone starts posting anything negative about United.

Well the outsiders are going off what is said on these boards which is usually a small, fractious piece of the pilot group. We don't get reassigned nearly as much as American or delta but if you are bidding certain seats in certain bases it can seem more common.

RaginCajun 05-07-2023 06:08 PM

I love this. These Delta drivers haven’t been quite accurate in the past but lately with regards to our NC and ask…spot on. We are going nowhere fast. Keep up the banter and calling out our TA 1.0 yes voters.

ThumbsUp 05-07-2023 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by RaginCajun (Post 3633862)
I love this. These Delta drivers haven’t been quite accurate in the past but lately with regards to our NC and ask…spot on. We are going nowhere fast. Keep up the banter and calling out our TA 1.0 yes voters.


That was like 6% and probably all deadzoners. I doubt anyone on this forum that is routinely here voted yes.

ReadOnly7 05-07-2023 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3633902)
That was like 6% and probably all deadzoners. I doubt anyone on this forum that is routinely here voted yes.

iahflyr and some guy with ewr in his username. Both here rather often, and both DEFINITE yes voters.

NuGuy 05-08-2023 04:26 AM


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3633627)
I totally forgot about 2021. My bad. Everything during all the COVID crap was kind of a blur.

other than that then, in my experience only…

There was also one in 2018. I believe there were others, but I'm too lazy to do an email search.

Airhoss 05-08-2023 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by ReadOnly7 (Post 3633919)
iahflyr and some guy with ewr in his username. Both here rather often, and both DEFINITE yes voters.

Not shocking at all with those two.

three1five 05-08-2023 04:30 PM

I’m just impressed the Delta guys care enough about another airline to be picking forum fights with our guys about reserve rules. Brave new world.

Our global domiciles have more than 2 hard days off a month BTW… the reserve rules aren’t good comparatively and need improvement, but to call our reserve rules “slave labor” as a DL guy did a few pages ago is an incorrect representation of a few different things…

dailyops 05-08-2023 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by three1five (Post 3634247)
I’m just impressed the Delta guys care enough about another airline to be picking forum fights with our guys about reserve rules. Brave new world.

Our global domiciles have more than 2 hard days off a month BTW… the reserve rules aren’t good comparatively and need improvement, but to call our reserve rules “slave labor” as a DL guy did a few pages ago is an incorrect representation of a few different things…

You're right, global pilots get a whole 6 hard days off a month they can plan their lives with.

three1five 05-08-2023 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by dailyops (Post 3634257)
You're right, global pilots get a whole 6 hard days off a month they can plan their lives with.

I don’t have a single global friend who says it’s as bad as the message boards make it out to be but, as previously stated, it still needs improvement. But that doesn’t warrant calling it “slave labor.”

hummingbear 05-08-2023 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3633902)
That was like 6% and probably all deadzoners. I doubt anyone on this forum that is routinely here voted yes.

We’re far too proud of that statistic, IMO. The original TA had many supporters in its early days who advocated for a “take what we can now & get the rest next time” approach.

The AA offer was the first big turning point that illustrated to many people how badly we had undervalued ourselves in negotiations. By the time we actually voted on TUMI many months later, the company had explicitly stated they were going to improve their offer, so the vote was little more than a procedural matter to put us back at the negotiating table- with both sides essentially endorsing a no vote. The TA would very likely have still failed absent that assurance from management, but I don’t think the no vote would have been anywhere near 90%.


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