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With the Air Canada (4,500) and American pilots (15,000) joining ALPA that means a 30% increase in the number of higher paid pilots to the current 67,000 ALPA pilots. I am confident the dues rate will be coming down NLT the next BOD meeting in less than two years. If you want to see that happen start passing resolutions at your LECs now.
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Originally Posted by jerryleber
(Post 3629863)
With the Air Canada (4,500) and American pilots (15,000) joining ALPA that means a 30% increase in the number of higher paid pilots to the current 67,000 ALPA pilots. I am confident the dues rate will be coming down NLT the next BOD meeting in less than two years. If you want to see that happen start passing resolutions at your LECs now.
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 3630159)
Since when is AA joining ALPA?
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Originally Posted by jerryleber
(Post 3630255)
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Today's update was presented in a little more positive tone with some agreements made and a few of the smaller sections getting close to being done. Sounds like there is still quite a bit of distance on the costing of the work rules and QOL provisions though, which is ultimately what will make or break this getting TA'd.
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Originally Posted by WXS15
(Post 3631253)
Today's update was presented in a little more positive tone with some agreements made and a few of the smaller sections getting close to being done. Sounds like there is still quite a bit of distance on the costing of the work rules and QOL provisions though, which is ultimately what will make or break this getting TA'd.
The 4 new agreed to items are not very substantial either. Per diem rates Increased pay for voluntary FSB Add Pay rig for long duty days Commuter Policy improvements |
Originally Posted by dailyops
(Post 3631256)
If you look at the updated "position report" that is linked to in the latest negotiations email, only 4 of the 50+ listed open items have been closed out in the past 30 days. At this rate we'll have a contract by sometime in late 2024.
The 4 new agreed to items are not very substantial either. Per diem rates Increased pay for voluntary FSB Add Pay rig for long duty days Commuter Policy improvements |
Originally Posted by WXS15
(Post 3631253)
Today's update was presented in a little more positive tone with some agreements made and a few of the smaller sections getting close to being done. Sounds like there is still quite a bit of distance on the costing of the work rules and QOL provisions though, which is ultimately what will make or break this getting TA'd.
SKs cheap labor can only wait so long. The line is frustrated, underpaid, and overworked…with outdated and archaic work rules that put us well below any respectable industry standard. Is this REALLY the best United Airlines can do? Is this REALLY the best UALPA can do? Im ashamed…and so should you. Summer ops and a frustrated pilot group is not a great combo. I’m not sure a green NPS will survive the next 3 months…but good luck. Saw a 4 year Capt leave for DAL this past weekend. Good on him. Many MANY more will follow. Turnover will only increase exponentially as the year burns on. The pilot group only has so much patience. |
We won’t execute on united next if we don’t get a new contract. I don’t care about united next but Kirby does. We will limp through this summer but we will need to start filling NB CA vacancies NLT this winter to be able to take our planes and start executing United next, next summer. So Im guessing they will string us along, giving crumbs like they have been and in the fall, an AIP!
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Originally Posted by RaginCajun
(Post 3631490)
Todays update was a joke. Any attempt to prove otherwise is futile. We have zero movement on either side. Our leverage is toast. The NC can’t pivot/lower the bar now because they know what happens when lackluster pathetic AIPs are put out for vote. Management SMEs/bean counters aren’t shifting because SK has drawn a hard line in the sand…at an unrealistic and pathetically low level.
SKs cheap labor can only wait so long. The line is frustrated, underpaid, and overworked…with outdated and archaic work rules that put us well below any respectable industry standard. Is this REALLY the best United Airlines can do? Is this REALLY the best UALPA can do? Im ashamed…and so should you. Summer ops and a frustrated pilot group is not a great combo. I’m not sure a green NPS will survive the next 3 months…but good luck. Saw a 4 year Capt leave for DAL this past weekend. Good on him. Many MANY more will follow. Turnover will only increase exponentially as the year burns on. The pilot group only has so much patience. |
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