New Hire Considerations
05-06-2023, 07:51 AM
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New Hire Considerations
For those that have 'been there, done that', what considerations did you give for choosing the WB or NB route at United? I know I can't count on getting one or the other but I'd love to hear some insights for both. Thank you in advance for any help.
05-06-2023, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 86BravoPapa
For those that have 'been there, done that', what considerations did you give for choosing the WB or NB route at United? I know I can't count on getting one or the other but I'd love to hear some insights for both. Thank you in advance for any help.
This is pretty well covered in 1000 posts, so I'd recommending using google to search posts. The native search function on the forum is useless.
Pay is the same year 1.
WB will likely only be available to newhires in EWR or SFO. If you'll commute to either one of them, avoid WB flying as you will likely be on reserve longer*.
--*There was a brief period within the last year where this was not true. Don't see that happening ever again.
You'll either not get used much on WB reserve, or have completely no control over your schedule and have rolled days off.
NB junior lines will work your tail off, typically flying for ~90 hours/month and close to or at min days off. If you learn PBS or pay for a service, you can avoid some of that grind, though.
05-06-2023, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 86BravoPapa
For those that have 'been there, done that', what considerations did you give for choosing the WB or NB route at United? I know I can't count on getting one or the other but I'd love to hear some insights for both. Thank you in advance for any help.
NB does more up and down, you get more experience in the airline overall. This matters especially if you are prior military and have no airline experience. NB fleet growing faster than WB, more growth opportunities.
Whatever you do, appreciate opportunity to be here and show it. For all the things that are wrong, it’s a good company, good pilot group and a union that is working hard. New contract will only make things better, and, it’s coming, whether in 3 months or a year.
05-06-2023, 01:20 PM
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Appreciate both responses. I didn't mean to beat a dead horse; just hadn't seen a lot regarding "strategy" or considerations outside of bases and individual goals such as: "dream to fly 777" or "don't like long legs." Airlines are an entirely new beast to tackle. Certainly grateful and excited for the opportunity.
05-06-2023, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 86BravoPapa
For those that have 'been there, done that', what considerations did you give for choosing the WB or NB route at United? I know I can't count on getting one or the other but I'd love to hear some insights for both. Thank you in advance for any help.
05-07-2023, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Spartacusbob
I’ll bite. Start NB. You don’t have a seat lock and after a year you can bid out to WB. Going WB first seat locks you for 2 years leaving you no options.
NB does more up and down, you get more experience in the airline overall. This matters especially if you are prior military and have no airline experience. NB fleet growing faster than WB, more growth opportunities.
Whatever you do, appreciate opportunity to be here and show it. For all the things that are wrong, it’s a good company, good pilot group and a union that is working hard. New contract will only make things better, and, it’s coming, whether in 3 months or a year.
NB does more up and down, you get more experience in the airline overall. This matters especially if you are prior military and have no airline experience. NB fleet growing faster than WB, more growth opportunities.
Whatever you do, appreciate opportunity to be here and show it. For all the things that are wrong, it’s a good company, good pilot group and a union that is working hard. New contract will only make things better, and, it’s coming, whether in 3 months or a year.
05-08-2023, 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by worstpilotever
Not really, one can bid NB capt in a year (as of right now anyway.)
05-08-2023, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Spartacusbob
I’ll bite. Start NB. You don’t have a seat lock and after a year you can bid out to WB. Going WB first seat locks you for 2 years leaving you no options.
NB does more up and down, you get more experience in the airline overall. This matters especially if you are prior military and have no airline experience. NB fleet growing faster than WB, more growth opportunities.
Whatever you do, appreciate opportunity to be here and show it. For all the things that are wrong, it’s a good company, good pilot group and a union that is working hard. New contract will only make things better, and, it’s coming, whether in 3 months or a year.
NB does more up and down, you get more experience in the airline overall. This matters especially if you are prior military and have no airline experience. NB fleet growing faster than WB, more growth opportunities.
Whatever you do, appreciate opportunity to be here and show it. For all the things that are wrong, it’s a good company, good pilot group and a union that is working hard. New contract will only make things better, and, it’s coming, whether in 3 months or a year.
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