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Old 05-11-2023, 05:50 PM
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Just looking for more info about this base, the schedule, reserves lines, and if there is some rumors, the possibility for the base to grow and any talks about having WB there in the future.
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Is it too late for the union to use the new base openings (or not) as contract leverage?
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Is it too late for the union to use the new base openings (or not) as contract leverage?
the Union is already using it. The Company wants a TPA co terminal with MCO. Union won’t give it to them.
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Thus far there are 3 data points on mco

1) may schedule
2) june schedule
3) slight growth seen on recent base bid

None of this really points toward anything actionable beyond “yeah, there’s a 737 base in mco”

The company said mco was not a hub for the airline operation - just a convenient place to keep pilots. Mco flying will start and finish with a hub leg. No new routes.

The company has commented extensively on other potential narrowbody bases and the unifying theme has been “if the numbers work”. There has been zero official inside discussion of a non-hub widebody base.
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Thus far there are 3 data points on mco

1) may schedule
2) june schedule
3) slight growth seen on recent base bid

None of this really points toward anything actionable beyond “yeah, there’s a 737 base in mco”

The company said mco was not a hub for the airline operation - just a convenient place to keep pilots. Mco flying will start and finish with a hub leg. No new routes.

The company has commented extensively on other potential narrowbody bases and the unifying theme has been “if the numbers work”. There has been zero official inside discussion of a non-hub widebody base.
Thanks for the info. How senior did the left seat go?
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Thanks for the info. How senior did the left seat go?
Last vacancy was ~44% system seniority, junior man report and current snapshots for the vacancy that’s open show ~58%. If they keep up their plan to stuff NB CA’s wherever they can find them, it might get pretty junior.
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Old 05-12-2023, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Brickfire View Post
Thus far there are 3 data points on mco

1) may schedule
2) june schedule
3) slight growth seen on recent base bid

None of this really points toward anything actionable beyond “yeah, there’s a 737 base in mco”

The company said mco was not a hub for the airline operation - just a convenient place to keep pilots. Mco flying will start and finish with a hub leg. No new routes.

The company has commented extensively on other potential narrowbody bases and the unifying theme has been “if the numbers work”. There has been zero official inside discussion of a non-hub widebody base.
Thank you
When you say will start and finish with a hub leg, meaning one of the legs will fly into a UA hub? But start and finish in MCO?
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When you say will start and finish with a hub leg, meaning one of the legs will fly into a UA hub? But start and finish in MCO?
Yes. The company said they aren't adding any flying. Just instead of an EWR crew flying EWR-MCO-whatever, a MCO crew will take EWR-MCO, trip ends, and the next MCO crew picks up the MCO-where ever trip. It seems to make sense that they will eventually add flying and that jives with Kirby's lip service to competing and dominating the ULCC's, but that requires the company to walk the walk, so who knows.
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When you say will start and finish with a hub leg, meaning one of the legs will fly into a UA hub? But start and finish in MCO?
If you are familiar with how outbases worked at the regionals, it will operate in a similar fashion. Trip will always start with a leg to fly to a hub to get the crew into the system then finish with leg from a hub to base.

Historically, outstation based results in a lot of un-commutable trips. I haven’t looked at the bid packages for MCO and LAS (outliner due to number of red eyes).
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If you are familiar with how outbases worked at the regionals, it will operate in a similar fashion. Trip will always start with a leg to fly to a hub to get the crew into the system then finish with leg from a hub to base.

Historically, outstation based results in a lot of un-commutable trips. I haven’t looked at the bid packages for MCO and LAS (outliner due to number of red eyes).
Gotcha, that's fine because I live in orlando, so living in base is definitely a plus.
I hope there is growth out of MCO in the future.
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