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Originally Posted by fiftyfourtyten
(Post 3746324)
I currently have a CJO at United with a class date in early March. I'm trying to make a decision of whether or not to make the jump from DAL to UAL while I'm still fairly junior at Delta (I have about 900 below me on the seniority list currently). I am aware that United has hired a similar ammount of pilots as Delta in the past decade, but it seems that the retirements and planned growth for United will translate to a similar (if not better) seniority situation. I also really like that United has more widebody flying and oppurtunities to upgrade quicker on the narrowbodies.
I'm not sure what to do and this decision has been weighing on me for a few months now. I'd really appreciate any advice or insight that anyone may have! Keep in mind United has more large w/b's (not the small 757/767 pay bump) but you have to factor in how many of Delta and United's current 767's will be replaced by 787's (that's the large w/b pay bump that matters). Given UA's overall larger international route structure and subsequent larger large w/b fleet the same seniority number at Delta is less valuable at the end of your career. IE #400 at DL might have the same w/b bidding power as #500 at UA. Get the data and work it out. Then figure out the value of driving to EWR for every trip vs the major pain of driving to JFK instead. Over decades it's almost "who cares! Just go to United and avoid all the pain!!" |
Originally Posted by Otters
(Post 3747344)
no we are not planning on 2400 this year. 1750 is the target. and no I didnt hear the rumor. I asked the right person. Confirmed....
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dilemma
Here is my dilemma that I am trying to figure out.
I am 55 years old and a captain at a AA wholly owned regional and live in base in CLT. I have a class date at Delta in 2 weeks and a class date at United in 6 weeks. I don't have the option of moving so will be a commuter for 10 years. I am initially prepared to commute to NYC. I have family in Queens, NY and also in Wayne, NJ which is about 20 miles from EWR. Delta could eventually offer me ATL which is a 3.5 hr drive from my home in CLT. Given I only have 10 years, I would like to upgrade soon. It seems given the seniority situation at DAL, it would take 4 years to upgrade based on when I will be joining. UAL could give me CA in NH bid or within a year, however I would lose the option of driving 3.5 hrs to ATL and also give up the supposedly DAL 'stability'. Which is a better airline for me? |
Originally Posted by rockit
(Post 3747779)
Here is my dilemma that I am trying to figure out.
I am 55 years old and a captain at a AA wholly owned regional and live in base in CLT. I have a class date at Delta in 2 weeks and a class date at United in 6 weeks. I don't have the option of moving so will be a commuter for 10 years. I am initially prepared to commute to NYC. I have family in Queens, NY and also in Wayne, NJ which is about 20 miles from EWR. Delta could eventually offer me ATL which is a 3.5 hr drive from my home in CLT. Given I only have 10 years, I would like to upgrade soon. It seems given the seniority situation at DAL, it would take 4 years to upgrade based on when I will be joining. UAL could give me CA in NH bid or within a year, however I would lose the option of driving 3.5 hrs to ATL and also give up the supposedly DAL 'stability'. Which is a better airline for me? |
Originally Posted by Otterbox
(Post 3748340)
DAL. You can sit ATL reserve from CLT.
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Originally Posted by GetThe14ers
(Post 3659745)
I’m a relatively new Delta pilot. I commute from Denver and I’m considering applying to United because I’m miserable commuting and don’t see myself doing it for the rest of my career, and I don’t want I leave Denver.
Can you tell me what overtime/open time pay looks like at United? Is it similar to Delta’s green slip callouts (calls go down seniority order, double pay for trip coverage)? Where would a 30 year old be on the seniority list in 5,10,15 years if they were hired in the next 6 months? How quickly can you go from a new hire drop of IAH 737 to Denver? How long does a move from narrow body to wide body typically take with a new hire seat lock? Any juicy rumors on new contract QOL improvements? Anything else you think I should consider? Appreciate any info, thanks! Go to UAL ASAP’ly! |
Originally Posted by Otterbox
(Post 3748340)
DAL. You can sit ATL reserve from CLT.
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
(Post 3748482)
LC, yes, SC no.
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Originally Posted by 170Till5
(Post 3748358)
DAL. United east coast network is trash, the commute would be miserable
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Originally Posted by BlueScholar
(Post 3749229)
I don't think commuting from CLT-DC would be miserable, it would likely be pretty reasonable. 6-9 daily flights to IAD, 8-13 flights a day to BWI, 9-16 flights a day to DCA with the pretty easy metro connections to BWI and IAD. CLT to ATL has 15-21 flights a day, so you're looking at about the same in my book. Commuting sucks for sure, but that looks like a pretty good situation to be in if one had to commute. 6 hour drive to DC vs 4 to ATL (although needing to drive through ATL could take 2 hour. If it takes 6+ months to get captain, and you get a year of PSC, they only have 8.5 years from there. If it got bad take WB FO and cut the number of commutes drastically.
Commuting for WB would be worth the pain though to IAD |
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