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WXS15 07-02-2023 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by GetThe14ers (Post 3659769)
Thanks! I’m on the 320 now, I’d be perfectly happy as a 320 FO or CA. You can’t bid for CA in your first year at UA, right?

Correct, both CA and sim instructor require you to be off probation (1 yr) and both are easy to get right now. A new contract with improved work rules may change that though.
Hopefully you're aware of the reserve rules here, as they are much worse than where you're at now. Living in base will reduce that pain though.

JTwift 07-02-2023 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by Ice Bear (Post 3659749)
At this point, why does Delta hire anyone in Denver and United hire anyone in Atlanta?

Should be able to hold DEN very quickly. Without looking, one, maaaybe two vacancies.


There are LOADS of UAL pilots who commute out of ATL. We could open an ATL base and have it staffed tomorrow.

GetThe14ers 07-02-2023 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by WXS15 (Post 3659771)
Correct, both CA and sim instructor require you to be off probation (1 yr) and both are easy to get right now. A new contract with improved work rules may change that though.
Hopefully you're aware of the reserve rules here, as they are much worse than where you're at now. Living in base will reduce that pain though.

I’m aware of them in a hazy way. I know they’re worse, but not specifics. I don’t know much about reroutes either. I figure either way it’s probably better to be in base and deal with it while I’m junior than commute for the rest of my life. Any idea if the new contract might address QOL?

MasterOfPuppets 07-02-2023 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by GetThe14ers (Post 3659778)
I’m aware of them in a hazy way. I know they’re worse, but not specifics. I don’t know much about reroutes either. I figure either way it’s probably better to be in base and deal with it while I’m junior than commute for the rest of my life. Any idea if the new contract might address QOL?

setting reserve in Base is great. That’s what our reserve rules are biuilt for….they are not built for commuters.

GPullR 07-02-2023 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by GetThe14ers (Post 3659769)
Thanks! I’m on the 320 now, I’d be perfectly happy as a 320 FO or CA. You can’t bid for CA in your first year at UA, right?

you can hold 320 CA in Denver after 1st year. It will be another 8 or so to hold a line.

RippinClapBombs 07-02-2023 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Ice Bear (Post 3659749)
At this point, why does Delta hire anyone in Denver and United hire anyone in Atlanta?

Should be able to hold DEN very quickly. Without looking, one, maaaybe two vacancies.

Well American has been hiring plenty of us Denver residents with success. I personally love living in Denver, but I’m surprised to read someone is “locked down” to the Mile High city. It’s called California East for unfortunate reasons. Denver is notorious for having “touch and go” residents who spend a few years then dip.

If you’re curious why the OP is desperately requesting UAL DEN upgrade times go look at what 500k gets you for a place. You’ll be asking yourself, “is that a house or just an expensive dumpster with a roof attached?”

Chuck D 07-02-2023 07:00 PM

Personally I love Denver, but Denver also means a ~2 hr radius around the city itself and there’s a lot of awesome in that circle that’s hard to find in some other large hubs.

Otterbox 07-02-2023 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by GetThe14ers (Post 3659745)
I’m a relatively new Delta pilot. I commute from Denver and I’m considering applying to United because I’m miserable commuting and don’t see myself doing it for the rest of my career, and I don’t want I leave Denver.

Can you tell me what overtime/open time pay looks like at United? Is it similar to Delta’s green slip callouts (calls go down seniority order, double pay for trip coverage)? Where would a 30 year old be on the seniority list in 5,10,15 years if they were hired in the next 6 months? How quickly can you go from a new hire drop of IAH 737 to Denver? How long does a move from narrow body to wide body typically take with a new hire seat lock? Any juicy rumors on new contract QOL improvements? Anything else you think I should consider?

Appreciate any info, thanks!

You won’t have anywhere near the income earning opportunity as DAL has with the green slip system and reserve rules at UAL are terrible. Unless you absolutely have to live in DEN, I’d probably consider moving to SLC and staying at DAL before applying to United.

GunsUp77 07-02-2023 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by GetThe14ers (Post 3659745)
I’m a relatively new Delta pilot. I commute from Denver and I’m considering applying to United because I’m miserable commuting and don’t see myself doing it for the rest of my career, and I don’t want I leave Denver.

Can you tell me what overtime/open time pay looks like at United? Is it similar to Delta’s green slip callouts (calls go down seniority order, double pay for trip coverage)? Where would a 30 year old be on the seniority list in 5,10,15 years if they were hired in the next 6 months? How quickly can you go from a new hire drop of IAH 737 to Denver? How long does a move from narrow body to wide body typically take with a new hire seat lock? Any juicy rumors on new contract QOL improvements? Anything else you think I should consider?

Appreciate any info, thanks!

Come on over! Work where you want to live is the golden rule assuming you have more than one option.

I just finished Indoc and turned 32 last month. Projected to retire at 1,067 overall currently. Assuming nobody died and we stopped hiring, company-wide i'm looking at 5 years - 81%, 10 years - 61%, 15 years - 46%. I'm fortunate/unfortunate enough to live close to SFO though, so life is a bit easier seniority-wise.

hercretired 07-02-2023 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by GetThe14ers (Post 3659745)
I’m a relatively new Delta pilot. I commute from Denver and I’m considering applying to United because I’m miserable commuting and don’t see myself doing it for the rest of my career, and I don’t want I leave Denver.

regarding Big 3, go to the one where you can drive to work. all the "extras" offered by the other two will not out-weigh the drive to work.


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