Latest MEC update sounds promising
07-04-2023 | 02:33 PM
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And PS commuting/using negotiating capital on commuter friendly reserve rules (IE making you useless to the company for day 1 of your reserve sequence) is advocating for a pay cut/QOL cut for people that live in base.
Line pilot V instructor, lineholder vs reserve, commuter v in base, cheap vs expensive hubs, QOL vs W2. all of these changes will disproportionately help one group over another. Best we can hope for is some balance of all of them.
Line pilot V instructor, lineholder vs reserve, commuter v in base, cheap vs expensive hubs, QOL vs W2. all of these changes will disproportionately help one group over another. Best we can hope for is some balance of all of them.
07-04-2023 | 02:37 PM
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And PS commuting/using negotiating capital on commuter friendly reserve rules (IE making you useless to the company for day 1 of your reserve sequence) is advocating for a pay cut/QOL cut for people that live in base.
Line pilot V instructor, commuter v in base, cheap vs expensive hubs, QOL vs W2. all of these changes will disproportionately help one group over another. Best we can hope for is some balance of all of them.
Line pilot V instructor, commuter v in base, cheap vs expensive hubs, QOL vs W2. all of these changes will disproportionately help one group over another. Best we can hope for is some balance of all of them.
07-04-2023 | 03:11 PM
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yeah, I wouldn't want to live in any of those cities. and apparently enough people feel the same way so its cheaper to live there.
07-04-2023 | 03:35 PM
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Commuters can do any of the following: Commute in the night before, move to base, drive in, or move to a commuter location where you can make 2 flights by 1000.
Also, like others have said, the fatigue from people who then elect to commute in day of (rather than do any of the above options) will get worse. The lesson out of Colgan 3407 should have been that long commutes leading into a long duty people lead to fatigue and should not happen.
07-04-2023 | 07:43 PM
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Yes. I hope we didn’t spend any negotiating capital on something that makes reserves basically useless on day 1 at the expense of people who live in base. We already got an update saying we got 1000. That’s good.
Commuters can do any of the following: Commute in the night before, move to base, drive in, or move to a commuter location where you can make 2 flights by 1000.
Also, like others have said, the fatigue from people who then elect to commute in day of (rather than do any of the above options) will get worse. The lesson out of Colgan 3407 should have been that long commutes leading into a long duty people lead to fatigue and should not happen.
Commuters can do any of the following: Commute in the night before, move to base, drive in, or move to a commuter location where you can make 2 flights by 1000.
Also, like others have said, the fatigue from people who then elect to commute in day of (rather than do any of the above options) will get worse. The lesson out of Colgan 3407 should have been that long commutes leading into a long duty people lead to fatigue and should not happen.
"Get off my neck, I can't breath."
"What?, We've always had our knee on the neck of reserves and we will continue to do so until you tap out or perish"
Maybe the lesson learned from Colgan is times evolve and the PWA can accommodate the 50% that are commuters as well as the in base pilots. Unless of course you live in base, then your mantra is, "Eff you, move to a base?"
You might have a point if it were <5% of the pilots that commute. Unfortunately, it's closer to 50% commuters. Maybe they deserve a little representation too?
07-05-2023 | 06:25 AM
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Not at all you sweet summer child. The way it’s rigged now is that if you live in places with low taxes or affordable housing, you are already ‘basically’ getting a pay bonus.
The company does this for Guam because the col is high there, so there’s precedent. If the biggest hurdle to filling vacancies and properly staffing bases is indeed taxes and col (my presumption), then offset that via a cola.
The company does this for Guam because the col is high there, so there’s precedent. If the biggest hurdle to filling vacancies and properly staffing bases is indeed taxes and col (my presumption), then offset that via a cola.
07-05-2023 | 06:29 AM
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07-05-2023 | 06:33 AM
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Not at all you sweet summer child. The way it’s rigged now is that if you live in places with low taxes or affordable housing, you are already ‘basically’ getting a pay bonus.
The company does this for Guam because the col is high there, so there’s precedent. If the biggest hurdle to filling vacancies and properly staffing bases is indeed taxes and col (my presumption), then offset that via a cola.
The company does this for Guam because the col is high there, so there’s precedent. If the biggest hurdle to filling vacancies and properly staffing bases is indeed taxes and col (my presumption), then offset that via a cola.
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