New Crew Base ?
07-20-2023 | 05:50 AM
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From: 18%er but I’ll enforce UPA23 to the last period.
BSO and PHX already also have FA bases (like LAS and MCO). I’d guess either/both of those are the winner.
07-20-2023 | 07:04 AM
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The satellite base experiment isn't working out too well in ewr on the 737. Mco, iad, ord, iah ... have all grown to gain Captains but that doesn't allow for them to efficiently staff early morning departures out of ewr. Just take a glance at the 15 premium pay trips every single day, reserves flying every rsv day, and 90 hr lines for almost the entire base which is pushing people out even faster. We have a lot of retirements in ewr (especially 777 and 787) and now they can't backfill those seats without hurting 737 staffing even more. Unless their plan is to staff some of the widebodies out of somewhere else like ord 777 flying.
07-20-2023 | 07:19 AM
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I can tell you from a Delta perspective. You open a crew base for two reasons. A reduction in credit hours and or an improvement in operational statistics. Hotel costs can be a third but minor player. HNL because all legs are more than 5 hours block to get there offers little in the way of credit reduction. In fact it likely increases credit because long legs make it much easier to build low credit rotations. Pull those long legs out of domestic bases may increase their credit. Operationally you also gain virtually nothing. With the weather in HNL and a predominantly one way traffic flow irops requiring reserve crews are non existent. In short a HNL base for airlines like Delta or UAL probably increases costs.
07-20-2023 | 07:28 AM
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once upon a time UAL had HNL, like they did with SEA. I don’t see either coming back. We don’t connect Pax in sea, and with delta in town there really isn’t a market to add back the previous, and what was a small amount anyway, of intl flying we had. Plus SeaTac can’t handle more pax. Mia the same, and of course company choose mco/tpa. Phx is dead with Las open. I honestly can’t see any new bases coming anytime soon.
07-20-2023 | 08:49 AM
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once upon a time UAL had HNL, like they did with SEA. I don’t see either coming back. We don’t connect Pax in sea, and with delta in town there really isn’t a market to add back the previous, and what was a small amount anyway, of intl flying we had. Plus SeaTac can’t handle more pax. Mia the same, and of course company choose mco/tpa. Phx is dead with Las open. I honestly can’t see any new bases coming anytime soon.
Crew Bases do not require hub/focus city type operations. It will operate as a outstation crew base it was to become a crew base.
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