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Old 09-04-2023 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BirdOn
This takes seniority though. If you're junior you won't be able to get day trips or two days if the majority of your base is flying is 3/4 days.
Seniority certainly helps with anything. And bidding a junior base helps with seniority (LAS is currently the most junior UAL base by a considerable margin). For comparison, I’d be at about 50% for LAS 737 CA and around 70% in DEN. And in my NB and WB bidding/trading experience, shorter 1-2 day trips go fairly junior in PBS awards.
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Old 09-05-2023 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by BirdOn
The way the OP worded his post it sounded like he wants to be based in LAS, not just live there and commute elsewhere. If he doesn't have WB aspirations I'd look at Frontier or Spirit. You can fly a modern airbus with better trips. You can actually trade or drop a trip there and won't soon be forced to upgrade if you don't want to either.
You will not fly better trips at NK vs UAL. Especially out of LAS.
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Old 09-05-2023 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Ecam321
Not seeing much discussed about the LAS base.
Is it going junior or senior ? Chances of getting it on the first vacancy bid during or after initial training?
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once the company gets their new provision to force new hires to be captains, LAS will disappear. They simply opened it up to get butts in the left seat, now that they can force guys into the left seat wherever they want them LAS will go buh-bye
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Old 09-05-2023 | 06:07 AM
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once the company gets their new provision to force new hires to be captains, LAS will disappear. They simply opened it up to get butts in the left seat, now that they can force guys into the left seat wherever they want them LAS will go buh-bye
That’s a pretty bold prediction. Closing a base costs the company a lot of money, when I came aboard people thought that was why CLE hadn’t closed. CLE has grown in the last couple of years. I doubt many people will be forced into CA, but I’m confident we will see new hires being awarded LAS from Indoc once WB new hires can no longer bid there to break their initial seat locks.
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Old 09-05-2023 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by CLazarus
That’s a pretty bold prediction. Closing a base costs the company a lot of money, when I came aboard people thought that was why CLE hadn’t closed. CLE has grown in the last couple of years. I doubt many people will be forced into CA, but I’m confident we will see new hires being awarded LAS from Indoc once WB new hires can no longer bid there to break their initial seat locks.
CLE has grown because they can get captains there.
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Old 09-05-2023 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by El Guapo
CLE has grown because they can get captains there.
Well, yeah. Same with a few other bases too, including MCO. LAS is going to be interesting to watch, the last tidbit I saw from the Co was that they didn’t see much LAS base growth coming. I tend to agree, but they are a long ways from closing it.
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Old 09-05-2023 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by El Guapo
once the company gets their new provision to force new hires to be captains, LAS will disappear. They simply opened it up to get butts in the left seat, now that they can force guys into the left seat wherever they want them LAS will go buh-bye
Extremely unlikely, Las wasn’t opened solely to get butts in seats. Consider the fact that most people who came to LAS originally were already on the 737 as a captain or lateraled from another aircraft. What’s far more likely is a massive displacement in IAH captains.
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Old 09-05-2023 | 01:37 PM
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Extremely unlikely, Las wasn’t opened solely to get butts in seats. Consider the fact that most people who came to LAS originally were already on the 737 as a captain or lateraled from another aircraft. What’s far more likely is a massive displacement in IAH captains.
what was LAS all about if not butts in seat?
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Old 09-05-2023 | 03:09 PM
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what was LAS all about if not butts in seat?
It also promotes recruiting of new hires, provides an alternate location from which to cover SFO, LAX, and DEN flying, and saves the company buying a token number of hotel rooms.
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Old 09-05-2023 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TFAYD
what was LAS all about if not butts in seat?
Space to park the shear number of jets showing up that eventually won’t all be able to be staffed by normal overnighting crews. Vegas only has 100 captains almost all filled by lateral captain bids. IAH on the other hand grew by nearly 350 new captains.
The company unnecessarily grew IAH to get butts in seats. Before the company decided to do that lax was projected to be staffed to 340 captains. Now only 220. They sent all the unfilled LAX/SFO/EWR positions to IAH and smaller degree DEN to get butts in seats. Only
time will tell whether the company really wants 700+ captains in IAH, it was definitely a move to alleviate the unfilled CA vacancy problem though.
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