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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
(Post 3693596)
Shocker, the guy who went rogue screaming about mediation six months ago continues to go rogue screaming about mediation.
Whats the point of dropping this rant to membership ahead of the MEC vote? What’s the motive? It’s just contrarian grandstanding. |
Originally Posted by 744ButtonPusher
(Post 3693606)
read it.. several of his points are based on poor interpretations of the paragraphs in question.
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Originally Posted by Ca73
(Post 3693582)
I urge everyone to read and consider Council 33 FO Rep Mario Martins’ position on this TA before voting. The link is below. You can also log into www.alpa.org, go to the Council 33 link and click on “ Vice Chair TA Perspective : A Product of Expediency”.
https://www.alpa.org/ual/-/media/UAL...2023-09-06.pdf |
Originally Posted by DownSideUp
(Post 3693608)
Respectfully, that’s 20 minutes of my life I won’t get back.
In a nutshell, Mario is upset because he didn’t get his pony. |
Originally Posted by Aquaticus
(Post 3693626)
The den captain rep was already hemming and hawing while we were still negotiating. Next we will be surprised when AW from IAD votes no so she can politic on voting no. These people are playing politician with your livelihood. They never intended to vote yes. I see at least 4 hard no votes on the mec before the TA was even released so they can look "tough."
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Just like in national politics, it’s common to tender the tactical ‘no’ vote. Often when a bill is going to pass, even when the outliers support it, they’ll vote no.
They’ll tout the reasoning, maybe a few will listen. I wanted something that American got, we didn’t, partial sick bank buyback. Yeah, we could go back to grousing about compensation for another 9-12 months. |
Frankly, I was unaware of the history that is discrediting him. And, the letter I posted didn’t inform my current position on this TA. His position on Section 8 (among other aspects of that section) happened to illustrate how I feel about that section and partly why I’m voting “no” over it. 8-F-12 was a hard line for the Company for a reason. As bad as I’d like to secure a good contract as soon as possible, I’m not willing to sell out the integrity of our profession over it.
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Here’s a little more history for you. Remember your post about pilots power Grabbing during the recalls that you weren’t a fan of? He was one who led the charge in DEN and was voted in.
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Most of the replies to this thread sound very much like what people say when they are hearing what they don’t want to hear, regardless of it’s validity. How about some actual thoughts on why Section 8 is not an erosion of what this profession is founded on?
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Originally Posted by Rjros1988
(Post 3693755)
Here’s a little more history for you. Remember your post about pilots power Grabbing during the recalls that you weren’t a fan of? He was one who led the charge in DEN and was voted in.
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