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Jefferson 09-07-2023 06:51 AM
If we had signed off on Tumi we'd have been making those rates for Two years and would be negotiating now...likely close to this agreement. Opportunity cost is a thing.
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JurgenKlopp 09-07-2023 06:52 AM
Originally Posted by Ca73 (Post 3693773)
Most of the replies to this thread sound very much like what people say when they are hearing what they don’t want to hear, regardless of it’s validity. How about some actual thoughts on why Section 8 is not an erosion of what this profession is founded on?
How about cause there are multiple threads right now discussing a range from not a huge deal to United pilots are almost scabs if AIP gets voted this in? Go to there if you want to discuss it. Hey why not have a good thread on SW’s medical freedom as well!?!

FrancisSawyer 09-07-2023 07:07 AM
Originally Posted by DownSideUp (Post 3693608)
Respectfully, that’s 20 minutes of my life I won’t get back.

In a nutshell, Mario is upset because he didn’t get his pony.
what he said

Sniper66 09-07-2023 08:47 AM
Originally Posted by Ca73 (Post 3693582)
I urge everyone to read and consider Council 33 FO Rep Mario Martins’ position on this TA before voting. The link is below. You can also log into www.alpa.org, go to the Council 33 link and click on “ Vice Chair TA Perspective : A Product of Expediency”.

https://www.alpa.org/ual/-/media/UAL...2023-09-06.pdf


Mario’s vote today will make no difference

MEC will vote in couple of hours today and for sure they will send this to MRAT.

Pilots will decide and in my opinion this will Pass and it’s an easy pass

Otterbox 09-07-2023 08:52 AM
Originally Posted by Jefferson (Post 3693790)
If we had signed off on Tumi we'd have been making those rates for Two years and would be negotiating now...likely close to this agreement. Opportunity cost is a thing.
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The 14% bonus pay covers pretty much all positives that Tumi would have given the pilot group without the concessions.

ugleeual 09-07-2023 09:04 AM
Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3693859)
Mario’s vote today will make no difference

MEC will vote in couple of hours today and for sure they will send this to MRAT.

Pilots will decide and in my opinion this will Pass and it’s an easy pass
mario + 3 others will vote no…

744ButtonPusher 09-07-2023 09:43 AM
Originally Posted by Ca73 (Post 3693773)
Most of the replies to this thread sound very much like what people say when they are hearing what they don’t want to hear, regardless of it’s validity. How about some actual thoughts on why Section 8 is not an erosion of what this profession is founded on?
nope, I read it and just disagree with it., you sound like you’re trying to sell someone else’s opinions (unless in fact they are actually YOUR opinions and are passing them off as soemone else’s )

worstpilotever 09-07-2023 10:01 AM
ask Mario if he brought up his concerns at the MEC meeting now in progress.

ReadOnly7 09-07-2023 10:03 AM
Originally Posted by JurgenKlopp (Post 3693791)
How about cause there are multiple threads right now discussing a range from not a huge deal to United pilots are almost scabs if AIP gets voted this in? Go to there if you want to discuss it. Hey why not have a good thread on SW’s medical freedom as well!?!
man….you’re not kidding. Her no-fly list must be VAST.

Shrek 09-07-2023 10:31 AM
Originally Posted by worstpilotever (Post 3693897)
ask Mario if he brought up his concerns at the MEC meeting now in progress.
That was my issue with it……the timing was bad.


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