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Old 09-13-2023 | 04:22 AM
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Those closer to 65 will have already burned through most of their sick time & will be faced with the unpleasant reality that if they stay, they’ll actually have to work.
Imagine the horror, and likely on a NB no less!
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Old 09-13-2023 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
Those closer to 65 will have already burned through most of their sick time & will be faced with the unpleasant reality that if they stay, they’ll actually have to work.
Only having to wait 60 days for a 2 year tax free retirement supplement of $14,339 per month plus at least 120 hours from the ESB doesn’t seem very unpleasant, especially considering that the company will also be putting money into their retirement plan.

The bigger issue will be if ICAO doesn’t follow, or takes a long time to change.
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Old 09-13-2023 | 05:05 AM
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I expect the FAA to use it as an excuse to re evaluate the medical process.

I look forward to our 6mo mental competency and stress tests.
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Old 09-13-2023 | 05:18 AM
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I was under the impression that this would allow those that have already retired to come back to their original seniority. Is this correct? Also that 67 would add 2 years and until their 68th birthday. So essentially 3 years minus 1 day. Is this also correct?
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Old 09-13-2023 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
Only having to wait 60 days for a 2 year tax free retirement supplement of $14,339 per month plus at least 120 hours from the ESB doesn’t seem very unpleasant, especially considering that the company will also be putting money into their retirement plan.
You guys are better at gaming the system than me. I’d better call my senator & change myself to a yes!
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Old 09-13-2023 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyweight
I expect the FAA to use it as an excuse to re evaluate the medical process.

I look forward to our 6mo mental competency and stress tests.
It’s being sold as a means to mitigate the pilot shortage, not amplify it.
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Old 09-13-2023 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by cal73
I was under the impression that this would allow those that have already retired to come back to their original seniority. Is this correct?
I don’t believe the bill as proposed outlines how airlines have to offer callbacks, deal with seniority, etc., or even whether they do at all. There would almost certainly be multiple lawsuits in the years to follow.
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Old 09-13-2023 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by cal73
I was under the impression that this would allow those that have already retired to come back to their original seniority. Is this correct? Also that 67 would add 2 years and until their 68th birthday. So essentially 3 years minus 1 day. Is this also correct?
The 67 & 364 days part of your statement is patently false. The return to seniority is up to the airline, not the FAA. I think most companies aren’t interested in requaling 2 years worth of retirees for a year of useful service at the highest cost possible.
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Old 09-13-2023 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
It’s being sold as a means to mitigate the pilot shortage, not amplify it.
I have worked with career FAA GS-15s. Bureaucracy always wants to expand.
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Old 09-13-2023 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyweight
I expect the FAA to use it as an excuse to re evaluate the medical process.

I look forward to our 6mo mental competency and stress tests.
Read the language in the bill more closely. It specifically says that 1st class medical standards will not change.
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