why do we use these guys
09-17-2023, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Redheadtexas
pS .. like WE have a say in it in anyway shape or form
09-17-2023, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Redheadtexas
09-17-2023, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
Because those who came before us sold the profession out by allowing scope to be flushed down the toilet in favor of B scales and jets for jobs. They then whined when the very regional dichotomy that they helped create roared up and “took all of their flying” while cocky RJ drivers walked around with “guppy killer” stickers on their bags. UA, DL, and AA love SkyWest and their high school student council of a union. When the management groups need something done they just fire up the whipsaw and watch the pieces fall in line.
bingo
Mormon airforce/ Skywest Mainline is their name for a reason
lots of cool aid
09-17-2023, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
Because those who came before us sold the profession out by allowing scope to be flushed down the toilet in favor of B scales and jets for jobs. They then whined when the very regional dichotomy that they helped create roared up and “took all of their flying” while cocky RJ drivers walked around with “guppy killer” stickers on their bags. UA, DL, and AA love SkyWest and their high school student council of a union. When the management groups need something done they just fire up the whipsaw and watch the pieces fall in line.
Same guys then got the movement from mandatory age 60 retirement but changed it to 65 ++ to maximize their time at the top. Their motto: "you gotta earn your dues."
09-17-2023, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by list
Same guys then got the movement from mandatory age 60 retirement but changed it to 65 ++ to maximize their time at the top. Their motto: "you gotta earn your dues."
Those same pilots didn't even start at a major until their 30's, spent a decade as engineers, then as FO and maybe finishing their career as a CA, because, hey retire at 60. Oh and more than a majority had done military service to even get the opportunity. Fortunately at those times they still had pensions, paid for by the earlier than normal demise of many due to smoking and drinking.
Instead of being grateful and appreciative to those who came before and built a US pilot market that is the envy of the modern world, you chastise and criticize as though you would have done one scintilla of it differently.
09-17-2023, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by nene
So typical and disrespectful of younger generation to consider their "elders" either evil or stupid.
Those same pilots didn't even start at a major until their 30's, spent a decade as engineers, then as FO and maybe finishing their career as a CA, because, hey retire at 60. Oh and more than a majority had done military service to even get the opportunity. Fortunately at those times they still had pensions, paid for by the earlier than normal demise of many due to smoking and drinking.
Instead of being grateful and appreciative to those who came before and built a US pilot market that is the envy of the modern world, you chastise and criticize as though you would have done one scintilla of it differently.
Those same pilots didn't even start at a major until their 30's, spent a decade as engineers, then as FO and maybe finishing their career as a CA, because, hey retire at 60. Oh and more than a majority had done military service to even get the opportunity. Fortunately at those times they still had pensions, paid for by the earlier than normal demise of many due to smoking and drinking.
Instead of being grateful and appreciative to those who came before and built a US pilot market that is the envy of the modern world, you chastise and criticize as though you would have done one scintilla of it differently.
09-17-2023, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
Because those who came before us sold the profession out by allowing scope to be flushed down the toilet in favor of B scales and jets for jobs. They then whined when the very regional dichotomy that they helped create roared up and “took all of their flying” while cocky RJ drivers walked around with “guppy killer” stickers on their bags. UA, DL, and AA love SkyWest and their high school student council of a union. When the management groups need something done they just fire up the whipsaw and watch the pieces fall in line.
I really wish that scope relief never happened, though I'm not sure the industry could have afforded to grow like it did without it.
Don't let it happen again.
09-17-2023, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by nene
So typical and disrespectful of younger generation to consider their "elders" either evil or stupid.
Those same pilots didn't even start at a major until their 30's, spent a decade as engineers, then as FO and maybe finishing their career as a CA, because, hey retire at 60. Oh and more than a majority had done military service to even get the opportunity. Fortunately at those times they still had pensions, paid for by the earlier than normal demise of many due to smoking and drinking.
Instead of being grateful and appreciative to those who came before and built a US pilot market that is the envy of the modern world, you chastise and criticize as though you would have done one scintilla of it differently.
Those same pilots didn't even start at a major until their 30's, spent a decade as engineers, then as FO and maybe finishing their career as a CA, because, hey retire at 60. Oh and more than a majority had done military service to even get the opportunity. Fortunately at those times they still had pensions, paid for by the earlier than normal demise of many due to smoking and drinking.
Instead of being grateful and appreciative to those who came before and built a US pilot market that is the envy of the modern world, you chastise and criticize as though you would have done one scintilla of it differently.
09-17-2023, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by nene;[url=tel:3698311
3698311]So typical and disrespectful of younger generation to consider their "elders" either evil or stupid.
Those same pilots didn't even start at a major until their 30's, spent a decade as engineers, then as FO and maybe finishing their career as a CA, because, hey retire at 60. Oh and more than a majority had done military service to even get the opportunity. Fortunately at those times they still had pensions, paid for by the earlier than normal demise of many due to smoking and drinking.
Instead of being grateful and appreciative to those who came before and built a US pilot market that is the envy of the modern world, you chastise and criticize as though you would have done one scintilla of it differently.
Those same pilots didn't even start at a major until their 30's, spent a decade as engineers, then as FO and maybe finishing their career as a CA, because, hey retire at 60. Oh and more than a majority had done military service to even get the opportunity. Fortunately at those times they still had pensions, paid for by the earlier than normal demise of many due to smoking and drinking.
Instead of being grateful and appreciative to those who came before and built a US pilot market that is the envy of the modern world, you chastise and criticize as though you would have done one scintilla of it differently.
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