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#11
So in this woke environment, you are guilty until proven Democrat……I mean innocent. I understand this is not a “court of law” but rather employee/employer relations. But saying the Company already “knows” the alleged story without hearing both sides of the argument is a dangerous position to be in. My take is stay off the internet/SM, stay off the PA other than required announcements, know the UPA and take your time/be vigilant.
I’ve seen plenty of “he said she said” that went nowhere because it couldn’t be substantiated (IE an impartial witness wasn’t present). The system is far from perfect, but I don’t think constantly looking over your shoulder is warranted or beneficial to your mental health.
like I said, YMMV
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The irony that you can see that woke-sters seeing racism absolutely everywhere is detrimental to society, yet you don’t see that seeing woke-ism any where people ask: “ could things be done better?” is perhaps lost on you .
I’ve seen plenty of “he said she said” that went nowhere because it couldn’t be substantiated (IE an impartial witness wasn’t present). The system is far from perfect, but I don’t think constantly looking over your shoulder is warranted or beneficial to your mental health.
like I said, YMMV
I’ve seen plenty of “he said she said” that went nowhere because it couldn’t be substantiated (IE an impartial witness wasn’t present). The system is far from perfect, but I don’t think constantly looking over your shoulder is warranted or beneficial to your mental health.
like I said, YMMV
For those new to Captain’s authority ask your union. It’s not absolute and falls within boundaries. Within said boundaries it is absolute.
You may be questioned . Before you make your decision ensure it is well reasoned and by all means trust your instinct. The conservative Captain provides the most value of safety.
Simply put, what would you do if your family was back there?
#13
Odd. You read “he said she said” yet I read Captain’s authority in the message.
For those new to Captain’s authority ask your union. It’s not absolute and falls within boundaries. Within said boundaries it is absolute.
You may be questioned . Before you make your decision ensure it is well reasoned and by all means trust your instinct. The conservative Captain provides the most value of safety.
Simply put, what would you do if your family was back there?
For those new to Captain’s authority ask your union. It’s not absolute and falls within boundaries. Within said boundaries it is absolute.
You may be questioned . Before you make your decision ensure it is well reasoned and by all means trust your instinct. The conservative Captain provides the most value of safety.
Simply put, what would you do if your family was back there?
of course Captains authority is not absolute but we all know the Aholes who think it is…..Everyone can name a handful of pilots that deserve a year off without pay…..I would bet these pilots the email outlined are probably 1%ers and probably are on no fly lists. If we heard their name we would probably say yeah that makes sense.
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of course Captains authority is not absolute but we all know the Aholes who think it is…..Everyone can name a handful of pilots that deserve a year off without pay…..I would bet these pilots the email outlined are probably 1%ers and probably are on no fly lists. If we heard their name we would probably say yeah that makes sense.
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I get the point of the email it’s basically the same email we get every month from the PSC. People are not getting along. Also the ALPA CASC people aren’t flying SOP.
I am a nice guy who uses CAs Authority as intended and utilize SOP. That letter is not meant for me. It’s meant for the angry arrogant Aholes and the pilots who fly an airplane like it’s their own Cessna and don’t care about the manual.
quite frankly those people need a shot of reality if we are going to keep an airplane out of the dirt during this time of chaotic growth. We are hiring so many pilots bad apples will get through…..how do we deal with them?
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The Union is duty bound to defend all dues paying pilots including those that shouldn’t be protected. I have seen some pilots do and say some extremely dumb stuff where there were carpet dances involved. Most of these individuals had closets full of skeletons and they are still flying airplanes, still LCPs, still Evaluators……
I get the point of the email it’s basically the same email we get every month from the PSC. People are not getting along. Also the ALPA CASC people aren’t flying SOP.
I am a nice guy who uses CAs Authority as intended and utilize SOP. That letter is not meant for me. It’s meant for the angry arrogant Aholes and the pilots who fly an airplane like it’s their own Cessna and don’t care about the manual.
quite frankly those people need a shot of reality if we are going to keep an airplane out of the dirt during this time of chaotic growth. We are hiring so many pilots bad apples will get through…..how do we deal with them?
I get the point of the email it’s basically the same email we get every month from the PSC. People are not getting along. Also the ALPA CASC people aren’t flying SOP.
I am a nice guy who uses CAs Authority as intended and utilize SOP. That letter is not meant for me. It’s meant for the angry arrogant Aholes and the pilots who fly an airplane like it’s their own Cessna and don’t care about the manual.
quite frankly those people need a shot of reality if we are going to keep an airplane out of the dirt during this time of chaotic growth. We are hiring so many pilots bad apples will get through…..how do we deal with them?
MoP gets it and is absolutely right.
#18
If weak pilots are still showing up on the line, it’s a Captain’s responsibility to mentor, debrief, AND complete the probationary report based on observed behavior and performance. It’s our collective responsibility to callout unsat performance and document it.
Look at today’s snapshot and notice all of the Delayed Pilot spots. 1 year captains are going to be the new norm for the foreseeable future.
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Wokeism?
Good Lord.
I also have some experience with the diciplinary process as a disinterested observer. My takeaway is similar to the intelligently explained post on page 1 and MoP. The folks that get in trouble generally tend to fall into two categories:
Anybody who has a problem with being truthful. ("I never put my hands on that person and walked them off MY jet!")
Anybody who's angry and clueless enought to think their job as Captain is to put their hands on a contractor and "help" them off the jet. (Or any other really dumb behavior at work. Stuff you've got to see to believe.)
I've also observed that those who cry about Captain's authority loudest are those that routinely cede it to others. It's fun and easy to kvetch about it. It takes integrity and courage and emotional intelligence to put your foot down and do the right thing.
I've never had my authority questioned in over 25 years here.
Good Lord.
I also have some experience with the diciplinary process as a disinterested observer. My takeaway is similar to the intelligently explained post on page 1 and MoP. The folks that get in trouble generally tend to fall into two categories:
Anybody who has a problem with being truthful. ("I never put my hands on that person and walked them off MY jet!")
Anybody who's angry and clueless enought to think their job as Captain is to put their hands on a contractor and "help" them off the jet. (Or any other really dumb behavior at work. Stuff you've got to see to believe.)
I've also observed that those who cry about Captain's authority loudest are those that routinely cede it to others. It's fun and easy to kvetch about it. It takes integrity and courage and emotional intelligence to put your foot down and do the right thing.
I've never had my authority questioned in over 25 years here.
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You lost me when you used “duty” and “union” in the same sentence. We’ve all been robbed by high level union leaders who don’t understand the word duty but instead use their union positions for politically self serving purposes.
There should be a litmus test that requires this concept of duty and service to the pilot group to be understood and ascribed to for all who want to run for union office.
There should be a litmus test that requires this concept of duty and service to the pilot group to be understood and ascribed to for all who want to run for union office.
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