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m3113n1a1 12-12-2023 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3735684)
im not going to put words in his mouth. But if a half winger has the balls to look at their CA and say I don’t work tell I get to the airplane, puts earbuds in and walks away….im fairly certain there is going to be other attitude problems, professional problems and the pilot will most likely be behind in the operation, during the flight and the aircraft.

You're correct, 99% of FOs will just cooperate to graduate and once they realize that captain anal wants them to analyze the flight plan before they even get to work, they'll do it...but the whole idea is insane to me and I'm sure most of your FOs are thinking the same thing. (Admittedly I'm DL and maybe it's a UA culture thing, so I'll just drop it 😂 )

PorkyMcFuzz 12-12-2023 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3735680)
I’d love to hear the response from pro-standards when you’ve contacted them for FOs not looking at the flight plan prior to duty.

Some of these old bid avoid captains (and they are at every airline) need to figure out the pendulum swings both ways nowadays. You can’t act like a jacka$$ to your FO under the guise of “mentoring” and consider it a get out of jail free card, especially if you are using it as a tool to leave negative feedback etc...

Knotcher 12-12-2023 01:01 PM

Some of us don't need to review things off duty and still be "ahead of the game"....

MasterOfPuppets 12-12-2023 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Knotcher (Post 3735749)
Some of us don't need to review things off duty and still be "ahead of the game"....

yeah….an hour and 30 minutes before every flight with 1-2 extra pilots tends to slow things down……

Race Bannon 12-12-2023 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 3735714)
You're correct, 99% of FOs will just cooperate to graduate and once they realize that captain anal wants them to analyze the flight plan before they even get to work, they'll do it...but the whole idea is insane to me and I'm sure most of your FOs are thinking the same thing. (Admittedly I'm DL and maybe it's a UA culture thing, so I'll just drop it 😂 )

Just so you know. UAL flies with 3 FO and 1 captain on most long haul flights . It's usually one of the FO's, that wants to show how "smart" they are and have morphed into "capt anal" 20 years before they can hold it, that peruses the IPAD flight plan on the crew bus.

Is it only Delta that has a large majority of anal captains? All the Delta FO's are hip and laid back? If you're a di**/anal as a FO, you will probably be a di**/anal captain.

Thanks for your insight, now go back to Delta and quit trolling.

John Carr 12-12-2023 09:34 PM

Was in the Caribbean, heading to EWR. On the van, CA pulls up the info. He mentions EWR is doing the whole circle to 29 thing due to the winds. Says we'll have to do all the briefings for that, etc.

Did I mention we were in the Caribbean? And that we're on the van? ETA is still like 4-ish hours away? Good thing he's getting spooled up NOW.

And, as everyone can guess, we weren't doing 29 when we arrived......

But man, good thing he was so ahead of the game.

MtoL 12-13-2023 12:50 AM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 3735938)
Was in the Caribbean, heading to EWR. On the van, CA pulls up the info. He mentions EWR is doing the whole circle to 29 thing due to the winds. Says we'll have to do all the briefings for that, etc.

Did I mention we were in the Caribbean? And that we're on the van? ETA is still like 4-ish hours away? Good thing he's getting spooled up NOW.

And, as everyone can guess, we weren't doing 29 when we arrived......

But man, good thing he was so ahead of the game.

I bet he's the guy who spends 10 minutes during of the preflight analysing the weather to figure out the landing runway on a transcon.

JoePatroni 12-13-2023 01:46 AM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 3735938)
Was in the Caribbean, heading to EWR. On the van, CA pulls up the info. He mentions EWR is doing the whole circle to 29 thing due to the winds. Says we'll have to do all the briefings for that, etc.

Did I mention we were in the Caribbean? And that we're on the van? ETA is still like 4-ish hours away? Good thing he's getting spooled up NOW.

And, as everyone can guess, we weren't doing 29 when we arrived......

But man, good thing he was so ahead of the game.

Did you tell him you were only flying to EWR, not bombing it?

JTwift 12-13-2023 02:03 AM


Originally Posted by MtoL (Post 3735953)
I bet he's the guy who spends 10 minutes during of the preflight analysing the weather to figure out the landing runway on a transcon.

Gear up, get the Newark gate assignment for our arrival in 6 hours. I’m sure it won’t change before then!

Iregretnothing 12-13-2023 03:26 AM

You know, there are too many unfilled CA positions to be *****ing about captains who make the grave mistake of talking about work in the van to work. Upgrade and show us how to run the show.


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