Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot (Post 3904842)

4% of "domestic capacity" not the entire airline. Also most of this is coming from off-peak, lower demand days, so there will still be a need to keep hiring. United is adding international since we are adding 787s without retiring any widebody planes. 7 more 787s still to be delivered by the end of 2025 on top of the 6 we have already received since November.

We will still have to hire/train to replace retirements. I understand you are trying to "bistromath" this, but we will almost certainly be hiring/training after the summer because of training backfills from retirements.

Originally Posted by GPullR (Post 3904953)

Those delivery planes were already in the forecast before the 4% capacity cut.
Bet you a beer or two we stop hiring very soon until there's some type of stability in this crazy economy.

Originally Posted by khergan (Post 3904957)

I don't think you listen to what Kirby's been saying for years. He wants to continue hiring exactly because the economy is crazy and he expects competition to shrink or pull back, allowing us to expand past them.

You may be right, but hopefully you aren't, because I think it'd be nice for everyone here if we kept hiring.

Originally Posted by GPullR (Post 3904953)

Those delivery planes were already in the forecast before the 4% capacity cut.
Bet you a beer or two we stop hiring very soon until there's some type of stability in this crazy economy.

Originally Posted by JTwift (Post 3905011)

Kirby is a gambler. He’s banned from every casino in Vegas. His gambles worked during COVID. Let’s hope they work now.

personally, I like the aggressiveness.

Originally Posted by coast in (Post 3905303)

Well to be very very clear (from Airline MBA 101), when Airline Management types talk about cutting 4%……..its ASM’s!!

Jeez people, lets hope Kirby doesn’t see this, he’ll think we’re a bunch of dummies. It’s not airplanes, pilots, gate agents, super tugs, lighter choice beef crew meals, etc..Soo, you could cut 2 777-300’s with 350 pax a day each going from EWR-DXB for a 15 hour 6000 mile jaunt and that could be a 1% cut to UAL’s ASM’s..(just an example)..thats only 4 pilots but a whole ******load of ASM’s..

Originally Posted by coast in (Post 3905303)

Well to be very very clear (from Airline MBA 101), when Airline Management types talk about cutting 4%……..its ASM’s!!

Jeez people, lets hope Kirby doesn’t see this, he’ll think we’re a bunch of dummies. It’s not airplanes, pilots, gate agents, super tugs, lighter choice beef crew meals, etc..Soo, you could cut 2 777-300’s with 350 pax a day each going from EWR-DXB for a 15 hour 6000 mile jaunt and that could be a 1% cut to UAL’s ASM’s..(just an example)..thats only 4 pilots but a whole ******load of ASM’s..

Originally Posted by GPullR (Post 3904953)

Those delivery planes were already in the forecast before the 4% capacity cut.
Bet you a beer or two we stop hiring very soon until there's some type of stability in this crazy economy.