Originally Posted by Ripinpeace (Post 3896663)

If you’re truly long-term looking at FL. AA/MIA if you live south of TPA/St. Pete or DL/ATL if you live in or north of those cities.

MCO for UA will likely close in the next major downturn before its adds another category/expands it’s never gonna be one airlines hub (e.g. nowhere to expand, too low fare, too much competition). The U.S. southeast is a clear weakness in UA’s network and right now no potential to grow; just like Delta in TX or AA in pacific NW. Plus, the second you get tired of driving to fly a 737 you’ll be commuting to EWR/IAD (low frequency/lots of commuters) or IAH (senior base, low frequency, lots of commuters) both of which are mostly on 737’s (1 JS can’t be reserved).

FL commuting to ATL does have high loads, but bookable JS, high frequency on large planes, yellow slipping to only need 1 commute flight, and P.S. on the backup makes it much easier than people make it out to be + it’s an hour flight or less. ATL is also HQ (career opportunity/training center) and has 5,000+ pilots based there, seniority will always move steady there, and WB flying is night&day better than MIA. Pure speculation, but Delta is doing some interesting growth in Tampa; being the anchor tenant for new terminal/gates. Maybe a MCO/TPA 320 or 737 base once fleets consolidate more? Delta already does intl. & domestic WB flying out of TPA and MCO on their own metal with Skyteam in general dominating the TPA/MCO market.

If you can drive to MIA in south Florida that’s a clear winner. But, AA/DL’s financial performance would be a factor in on my decision as well and how you see each company performing in the near & far future.

p.s. these are my own opinions/experiences on the matter. Please take it as such

Originally Posted by Exfriedbacon (Post 3896713)

Awesome reply here !
I live in MCO, got CJO with UA, AA and UPS... But no DL. Gathering as much info as possible to make my crystal ball less hazy. Time to make the decision is coming soon. Thanks for the help !

Originally Posted by Exfriedbacon (Post 3896713)

I live in MCO, got CJO with UA, AA and UPS.!

Originally Posted by Ripinpeace (Post 3896663)

If you’re truly long-term looking at FL. AA/MIA if you live south of TPA/St. Pete or DL/ATL if you live in or north of those cities.

MCO for UA will likely close in the next major downturn before its adds another category/expands it’s never gonna be one airlines hub (e.g. nowhere to expand, too low fare, too much competition). The U.S. southeast is a clear weakness in UA’s network and right now no potential to grow; just like Delta in TX or AA in pacific NW. Plus, the second you get tired of driving to fly a 737 you’ll be commuting to EWR/IAD (low frequency/lots of commuters) or IAH (senior base, low frequency, lots of commuters) both of which are mostly on 737’s (1 JS can’t be reserved).

FL commuting to ATL does have high loads, but bookable JS, high frequency on large planes, yellow slipping to only need 1 commute flight, and P.S. on the backup makes it much easier than people make it out to be + it’s an hour flight or less. ATL is also HQ (career opportunity/training center) and has 5,000+ pilots based there, seniority will always move steady there, and WB flying is night&day better than MIA. Pure speculation, but Delta is doing some interesting growth in Tampa; being the anchor tenant for new terminal/gates. Maybe a MCO/TPA 320 or 737 base once fleets consolidate more? Delta already does intl. & domestic WB flying out of TPA and MCO on their own metal with Skyteam in general dominating the TPA/MCO market.

If you can drive to MIA in south Florida that’s a clear winner. But, AA/DL’s financial performance would be a factor in on my decision as well and how you see each company performing in the near & far future.

p.s. these are my own opinions/experiences on the matter. Please take it as such

Originally Posted by Ripinpeace (Post 3897123)

I would put UPS as a distant 3rd, personally. There is so much more potential (seniority & finances) to be had at United & American; especially when both have bases in FL and if you ever do decide to move for whatever reason both offer much more flexibility than UPS (plus non-rev is a nice thing to have). You’re in a great spot, you can’t really go wrong.

Best of luck!

Originally Posted by coast in (Post 3897404)

One of the common misconceptions around MCO is the low yeild question. While it is generally understood that Domestic US to MCO is generally a low yeild environment the same is not true for International to MCO. Most (not all) International carriers fly to MCO uncompeted. Iberia will be flying to MCO starting next month and pretty sure they can name thier price. Most passengers will pay a premium to not connect internationally..there's an enormous International market out there, especially South America to MCO. We will see if UAL ever decides to go this route.

Originally Posted by coast in (Post 3897404)

One of the common misconceptions around MCO is the low yeild question. While it is generally understood that Domestic US to MCO is generally a low yeild environment the same is not true for International to MCO. Most (not all) International carriers fly to MCO uncompeted. Iberia will be flying to MCO starting next month and pretty sure they can name thier price. Most passengers will pay a premium to not connect internationally..there's an enormous International market out there, especially South America to MCO. We will see if UAL ever decides to go this route.

Originally Posted by GPullR (Post 3897434)

Sorry,
Yields to orlando from anywhere are lower then most places. Its vacationers not business people. Vacationers book their travel months ahead of time and rarely pay full fare for business class. Just the nature of what Orlando is. Vacationers are looking for bargain fares as a general rule. You will never see an international hub in Orlando for United.

Originally Posted by coast in (Post 3897404)

One of the common misconceptions around MCO is the low yeild question. While it is generally understood that Domestic US to MCO is generally a low yeild environment the same is not true for International to MCO. Most (not all) International carriers fly to MCO uncompeted. Iberia will be flying to MCO starting next month and pretty sure they can name thier price. Most passengers will pay a premium to not connect internationally..there's an enormous International market out there, especially South America to MCO. We will see if UAL ever decides to go this route.