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Old 04-06-2024 | 02:28 PM
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Hi there,

Had a question on the ability to drop and pick up flights at United. How does it work at United? For example, at Spirit I know they can drop their whole schedule and rebuild it in open time or just drop straight to zero. At Alaska they can drop but have to credit a minimum of 50 hours for the month. American I believe "lets" you drop to zero, but the reserve grid is never green to actually use it. Curious how it is at United for those of us that really prefer schedule flexibility. Thanks in advance.
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Old 04-07-2024 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RBanger
Hi there,

Had a question on the ability to drop and pick up flights at United. How does it work at United? For example, at Spirit I know they can drop their whole schedule and rebuild it in open time or just drop straight to zero. At Alaska they can drop but have to credit a minimum of 50 hours for the month. American I believe "lets" you drop to zero, but the reserve grid is never green to actually use it. Curious how it is at United for those of us that really prefer schedule flexibility. Thanks in advance.
For clarity, at Alaska it's possible to drop (or trade) to zero, there are some benefit ramifications. Limitations on that were a bit complicated due to the old bidding and trading process, but PBS is effective for May onward. I'm actually not even sure how it works going forward, probably better figure that out.
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Old 04-07-2024 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RBanger
but the reserve grid is never green to actually use it.
That's all you need to know about dropping trips at UAL, also.
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Old 04-07-2024 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by jdavk
That's all you need to know about dropping trips at UAL, also.
I’ve found it depends as much on seniority as it does reserve coverage. When I was junior it was very tough to drop and trade, now it’s much easier and I can drop and rebuild pretty much anything. I also get most of what I bid so it’s not even necessary that often.
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Old 04-07-2024 | 06:44 AM
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I drop my schedule to 0 every month, haven’t flown a PBS awarded trip in literally years. Generally I bid weekday day trips and either drop them into open time if there is reserve coverage, which contrary to what others might say here happens pretty frequently, or other people pick them up from me. If you don’t pick up to 50 hours then you are on the hook for benefits that would have been deducted from your paycheck. I’m not exactly sure how that works because it’s never been an issue.
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Old 04-07-2024 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by El Guapo
I drop my schedule to 0 every month, haven’t flown a PBS awarded trip in literally years. Generally I bid weekday day trips and either drop them into open time if there is reserve coverage, which contrary to what others might say here happens pretty frequently, or other people pick them up from me. If you don’t pick up to 50 hours then you are on the hook for benefits that would have been deducted from your paycheck. I’m not exactly sure how that works because it’s never been an issue.
If I might ask...

Is that domestic or international?

Commuter or in base?

Big BES (700 pilots), or small (120)?

Senior(top 20%) or junior(60-70% barely G-line)?
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Old 04-07-2024 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by LJ Driver
I can drop and rebuild pretty much anything.
That's fine if you're in a category that actually has any open time. YMMV, in other words.
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Old 04-07-2024 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by El Guapo
I drop my schedule to 0 every month, haven’t flown a PBS awarded trip in literally years. Generally I bid weekday day trips and either drop them into open time if there is reserve coverage, which contrary to what others might say here happens pretty frequently, or other people pick them up from me. If you don’t pick up to 50 hours then you are on the hook for benefits that would have been deducted from your paycheck. I’m not exactly sure how that works because it’s never been an issue.
The 50 hours thing was gone out of the last contract for a while. Can’t find any reference to it at all any longer. I end up usually around there anyway after trading out of everything in the beginning of the month.
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Old 04-07-2024 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
The 50 hours thing was gone out of the last contract for a while. Can’t find any reference to it at all any longer. I end up usually around there anyway after trading out of everything in the beginning of the month.
pretty sure there are repercussions if you only fly 10 hours a month.
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Old 04-07-2024 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
If I might ask...

Is that domestic or international?

Commuter or in base?

Big BES (700 pilots), or small (120)?

Senior(top 20%) or junior(60-70% barely G-line)?
in base, senior, EWR 737
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