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Old 05-02-2024 | 01:31 PM
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Currently just above the G-Line, narrowbody. Trying to weigh pros and cons of staying put or giving WB life a go. Most likely would have to choose the 78. One leg commute, now, may move to a base within the next 6-8 months. Any insights would be really appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 05-02-2024 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 86BravoPapa
Currently just above the G-Line, narrowbody. Trying to weigh pros and cons of staying put or giving WB life a go. Most likely would have to choose the 78. One leg commute, now, may move to a base within the next 6-8 months. Any insights would be really appreciated. Thanks.
WB life is great…..commuting to reserve blows. Wait tell you move then sit reserve.
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Old 05-02-2024 | 01:47 PM
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Better bid that WB first before you move bases. You'll incur a 3 yr (i think) freeze if in same airframe lateral to another base. 2 year if new airframe. Ie 320 - 737.

unless you meant just pick up and move residences to new base.
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Old 05-02-2024 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 86BravoPapa
may move to a base within the next 6-8 months. Any insights would be really appreciated. Thanks.
Commuting and living in base are totally different animals. move your house first then think about switching fleets.
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Old 05-02-2024 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 86BravoPapa
Currently just above the G-Line, narrowbody. Trying to weigh pros and cons of staying put or giving WB life a go. Most likely would have to choose the 78. One leg commute, now, may move to a base within the next 6-8 months. Any insights would be really appreciated. Thanks.
Why not wait until you move in base and then bid WB? WB RSV at home can be pretty chill if you don't want to work.
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Old 05-02-2024 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Rjros1988
Better bid that WB first before you move bases. You'll incur a 3 yr (i think) freeze if in same airframe lateral to another base. 2 year if new airframe. Ie 320 - 737.

unless you meant just pick up and move residences to new base.
Same airframe lateral to another base would not incur any freeze. EWR 737 -ORD 737 would not carry a freeze. You get a 3 year freeze if you don't move up payband and don't change base ie EWR 737 - EWR 320.

8-D-2-a
When a Pilot is awarded an assignment through vacancy bidding and such award does
not move him from a lower-numbered band to a higher-numbered band in accordance with
Section 8-D-1-c, he may be ineligible to be awarded any other vacancy for (-1-) thirty-six (36)
months, if the Pilot did not change Base as a result of the award; or (-2-) twenty-four (24)
months if the Pilot did change Base as a result of the award. However, a Pilot shall be eligible
to be awarded a vacancy for a “lateral” award (i.e., change in Base only; Equipment and Status
remain the same, where ‘Equipment and Status’ is determined using the Pilot’s most-recent
vacancy or displacement award) without incurring an additional bidding freeze.

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Old 05-02-2024 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 86BravoPapa
Currently just above the G-Line, narrowbody. Trying to weigh pros and cons of staying put or giving WB life a go. Most likely would have to choose the 78. One leg commute, now, may move to a base within the next 6-8 months. Any insights would be really appreciated. Thanks.
What base are you thinking of going to? The 78 is pretty overstaffed across the board. I don’t think there are going to be any vacancies or backfills until at least the Fall. Even then it’ll only be if Boeing can deliver them on something resembling a reliable schedule (your joke here).
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Old 05-03-2024 | 07:07 AM
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...The 78 is pretty overstaffed across the board. I don’t think there are going to be any vacancies or backfills until at least the Fall...
I was going to say the same thing. I suspect the 777 is in a similar situation. The last 4 out of 5 vacancy bids didn't contain any WB slots. The one that did the most jr award was 12xxx. The WB ship has sailed. It will be easier for a junior pilot to become a NB Capt than to hold out for a WB seat. Sure there will be a smattering of vacancies here and there, but there are a lot of sr NB pilots ready to make the move.
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Old 05-03-2024 | 07:17 AM
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I knew that was going to happen!🙄 The second I hit submit a vacany bid appears with 68 WB Capt slots. But my statemnt about FOs stands. In fact this is what the CRU said: Due to the surplus of First Officers, there are no backfills or postings for these positions and we’ll be planning to utilize IRO pairings in W patterns for the winter where necessary.
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Old 05-03-2024 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by F15andMD11
I knew that was going to happen!🙄 The second I hit submit a vacany bid appears with 68 WB Capt slots. But my statemnt about FOs stands. In fact this is what the CRU said: Due to the surplus of First Officers, there are no backfills or postings for these positions and we’ll be planning to utilize IRO pairings in W patterns for the winter where necessary.
Yeah, my statement about overstaffing was definitely aimed at FOs. I just assumed that the OP was an FO, but I guess I don’t really know that.
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