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MasterOfPuppets 05-16-2024 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by Nordhavn (Post 3802850)
Most people on your seniority list that are junior are younger and have little experience. Just because the dude below you has 20 years at another shop doesn't mean sh1t. The world works in generalities man. Your anecdotal story doesn't make the rule. Why do people always go to the extreme to prove a point?


that is complete BS man and you know it. There are thousands junior to me who are equally or more experienced than me. I fly with a ton of ex military heavy/tanker pilots who have had full military carrers. So speaking of genereralities and going to extreme to prove a point……

BeechedJet 05-16-2024 06:03 AM

I'm just impressed two apparently very junior pilots got work on a Tuesday.

ThumbsUp 05-16-2024 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by Nordhavn (Post 3802850)
Most people on your seniority list that are junior are younger and have little experience. Just because the dude below you has 20 years at another shop doesn't mean sh1t. The world works in generalities man. Your anecdotal story doesn't make the rule. Why do people always go to the extreme to prove a point?


What do you consider young? Everyone seems young to me, but to my kids in their 20’s the average new hire at 36 would probably seem old. And unless the average new hire is starting aviation in their 30’s, the average new hire still comes here with a pretty decent amount of experience. So, yeah, generalities.

sailingfun 05-16-2024 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3802892)
What do you consider young? Everyone seems young to me, but to my kids in their 20’s the average new hire at 36 would probably seem old. And unless the average new hire is starting aviation in their 30’s, the average new hire still comes here with a pretty decent amount of experience. So, yeah, generalities.

Oversteer is your friend in larger aircraft. You know where the nosewheel is. You really don't know where the mains might be. It was always surprising to me also how many pilots don't understand the two different types of taxi line intersections and what they mean.

BlueScholar 05-16-2024 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by Nordhavn (Post 3802850)
Most people on your seniority list that are junior are younger and have little experience. Just because the dude below you has 20 years at another shop doesn't mean sh1t. The world works in generalities man. Your anecdotal story doesn't make the rule. Why do people always go to the extreme to prove a point?

But your anecdotal story that says "because 2 out of a class of 40 new hires has one or two pilots under 25, everyone with a U number starting with 39 or 40 is inexperienced" is completely accurate? The facts say the typical new hire is in their 30's and has over 3,000 hours of flight time. Cherry picking 2 or 3 people from a group of 40 to make your point seems like a pretty extreme reach to me.

jdavk 05-16-2024 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3802892)
the average new hire still comes here with a pretty decent amount of experience. So, yeah, generalities.

I flew with a new hire once who was a retired astronaut and had flown the shuttle, Soyuz, commanded the Space Station and spent two years heading astronaut training in Russia.

Couldn’t get over the feeling that I should have been yanking the gear for him.

Nordhavn 05-16-2024 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by BlueScholar (Post 3802907)
But your anecdotal story that says "because 2 out of a class of 40 new hires has one or two pilots under 25, everyone with a U number starting with 39 or 40 is inexperienced" is completely accurate? The facts say the typical new hire is in their 30's and has over 3,000 hours of flight time. Cherry picking 2 or 3 people from a group of 40 to make your point seems like a pretty extreme reach to me.

Wow! 3000 hours. That is friggin amazing. I guess UAL hires the best.

Vernon Demerest 05-16-2024 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Nordhavn (Post 3803117)
Wow! 3000 hours. That is friggin amazing. I guess UAL hires the best.

You seem to have a keen interest in the subject….

jerryleber 05-16-2024 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by Vernon Demerest (Post 3803120)
You seem to have a keen interest in the subject….

He sure does.

SoFloFlyer 05-16-2024 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by Vernon Demerest (Post 3803120)
You seem to have a keen interest in the subject….

Probably got the TBNT from United


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