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Originally Posted by Furloughedboi
(Post 3803900)
if you’re familiar with the NASA ASAP program, FSAPs are basically ASAPs but for aircrews.
if you’re not familiar with the ASAP program, it’s when a pilot messes up and files a report saying “oops I messed up here’s what happened and what I should have done differently.” as long as the pilot didn’t seriously violate any FARs or make the “mistake” intentionally, it’s a way to alleviate the chance of punitive action by showing you recognized the error and are going to prevent future mistakes. |
Originally Posted by Furloughedboi
(Post 3803900)
if you’re familiar with the NASA ASAP program, FSAPs are basically ASAPs but for aircrews.
if you’re not familiar with the ASAP program, it’s when a pilot messes up and files a report saying “oops I messed up here’s what happened and what I should have done differently.” as long as the pilot didn’t seriously violate any FARs or make the “mistake” intentionally, it’s a way to alleviate the chance of punitive action by showing you recognized the error and are going to prevent future mistakes. |
Originally Posted by cencal83406
(Post 3803969)
oh you meant ASAP not FSAP. Or does your company / ALPA MOU call it an FSAP for some reason???
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
(Post 3803969)
oh you meant ASAP not FSAP. Or does your company / ALPA MOU call it an FSAP for some reason???
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Originally Posted by hopp
(Post 3803885)
Exactly. My standard response...., once we got down to taxi speed was "sorry I missed that last call...say again please"? Followed by, ugh was busy, but since I couldn't comply, I"ll be filing an FSAP". On the FSAP, I let them know the folly of such calls. I tried to get others to file FSAP's for every instance of stupid " expidite" clearances. That would put a stop to this.
"AJet 69, cleared to land runway 36, minimize time on runway, traffic 1.5 mile in trail" Uh...not my problem you vectored tight/other guy didn't keep SA on spacing. |
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