Agree strongly with this. We got ourselves at the front of the line for both NB and WB aircraft with what were undoubtedly smoking hot deals. Now other carriers are being forced to wait behind us for their own replacement needs, which are going to prevent them from growing much anytime soon (ex. SWA). We'd be in much more serious trouble if we didn't get to the front of the line, as we'd be choking trying to fly all those RJs we've been able to park so far.

Strangely enough, I'm kind of glad deliveries have slowed down because I'm not so sure we could absorb that many airplanes that fast. We are probably paying a premium now for the extra 321s we are getting... but the extra compensation we are likely getting from Boeing probably mitigates a lot of it. And the 321 is going to be a much better airplane for premium transcon service than the Max-10.

 

100% agree.

 

You either didn't read the accounts of the 2 crashes or have no idea what you are talking about. One incident flew for 6 minutes while the captain retrimmed 33 times. Then gave the airplane to a 250hr pilot and never said he retrimmed once. The second one was left at takeoff power until it hit the ground more then 2 minutes later. Every us pilot on the 737 was trained on trim runaway. Turn 2 switches off if that big huge wheel that hits you in the knee all the time is moving uncommanded.

 

Yeah, I'd love to see you with no prior knowledge diagnose what was going on as your FO is flying shortly after take off, your airspeed indications are totally whack, clacker blaring, all kinds of noises and distractions going off. Have you tried to manually trim a 737 once it's out of trim, you really have to push the nose down to unload the tail..which would be extremely difficult for anyone to do so low to the ground and with such little time to figure out what was happening. The first incident okay, I think most of us wouldn't have crashed that one.

 

You don’t have to manually trim an Airbus. Just sayin’!! ;-P

 

You know there were incidents in the United States prior to those crashes, right? Notice that none of them crashed and killed people? The US pilots turned the system off and left it off like we are taught with most problems, turn off the systems and fly the airplane till you figure it out. Do pilot ****. So YES, these was a blame on Boeing but the pilots are the ones who flew it into the ground when trying to turn the systems back on.

 

Unless you lose the AOA probes.

 

At the time Ethiopia was one of four airlines in the world that had a Max simulator, and those pilots did everything right, the way Boeing told them.

The airplane is a POS, and Boeings own testing, documentation, and internal correspondence prove that they knew.

Try again.

 

The first crash had the same issues the day prior. The crew followed procedures and flew it to their planned destination.

 

not showing any MCAS issues reported in the FAA SDR system. Which airlines had MCAS activations due to AOA vane failures?