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SoloPilot 08-20-2024 11:34 PM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 3829499)
At Delta we're not even supposed to be allowed big water bottles.. we're supposed to drink like ten of the 6oz first class ones instead.

Do you guys really get pushback for the water there?? Or is that just something said but never enforced

JTwift 08-21-2024 03:19 AM


Originally Posted by 170Till5 (Post 3830673)
is it cold brew concentrate? That might be why you need to cut it with water to make it not suck

it’s these. https://www.illy.com/en-us/coffee/re.../US023135.html

it says “ready to drink.”

GEARPINSOUT 08-21-2024 07:34 AM

I'm all about the Costco (Kirkland) cold brew right now. Way better than the illy.

StoneQOLdCrazy 08-23-2024 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by SoloPilot (Post 3830675)
Do you guys really get pushback for the water there?? Or is that just something said but never enforced

I think it's an urban legend or something that guys remember hearing about from the BK era.

But it doesn't matter. the stews take all the leftover big bottles and there are none left for the pilots anyway. And nothing ever happens to them.

Dave Fitzgerald 08-24-2024 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy (Post 3831497)
I think it's an urban legend or something that guys remember hearing about from the BK era.

But it doesn't matter. the stews take all the leftover big bottles and there are none left for the pilots anyway. And nothing ever happens to them.

Be careful with that attitude. Once in a while the company starts searching FA's bags. Yes, they can do that.

As pilots, we buy our uniforms and bags, stuff. UAL tries to look in my bag, I'll call ALPA and a lawyer. They look in an FA's bag?? Here's the kicker, UAL pays for their uniforms, and bags. That's right. Their bag is UAL's property, so UAL can search them. In slow times managers get a burr up somehwere and decide to search FA's bags for "stolen" items. It's serious and you can get fired over a coke. Mainly liquor is what they are looking for but the precedent has been set for decades. That goes for left over crew meals and snacks too. Eat it on the plane is ok. Whatever you do, don't take it off the plane for the layover. Is it really worth your job??

Newbies beware......

BTW, yes, the bottled water was a thing during bankruptcy. It was eventually defined in the contract to fix that. Thanks to Glen......

Guppydriver95 08-24-2024 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald (Post 3831653)
Be careful with that attitude. Once in a while the company starts searching FA's bags. Yes, they can do that.

As pilots, we buy our uniforms and bags, stuff. UAL tries to look in my bag, I'll call ALPA and a lawyer. They look in an FA's bag?? Here's the kicker, UAL pays for their uniforms, and bags. That's right. Their bag is UAL's property, so UAL can search them. In slow times managers get a burr up somehwere and decide to search FA's bags for "stolen" items. It's serious and you can get fired over a coke. Mainly liquor is what they are looking for but the precedent has been set for decades. That goes for left over crew meals and snacks too. Eat it on the plane is ok. Whatever you do, don't take it off the plane for the layover. Is it really worth your job??

Newbies beware......

BTW, yes, the bottled water was a thing during bankruptcy. It was eventually defined in the contract to fix that. Thanks to Glen......

For clarity, these dangers/threats of bag search and termination only apply to flight attendants. No pilot has ever had a bag searched, and never will. (Other than maybe a suspected drug mule and the DEA shows up with a search warrant). It’s a double standard, yes, but that’s the way it is. We can walk off the airplane as we eat the kind bar from our breakfast tray while taking a drink from the water bottle we got in flight as we pass the SVP’s of infight and flight ops on the jetway, and they can’t do squat. Now, a flight attendant takes a cocktail napkin? They can get fired. It’s stupid, but that’s how it is.

CLazarus 08-24-2024 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald (Post 3831653)
BeHere's the kicker, UAL pays for their uniforms, and bags. That's right. Their bag is UAL's property, so UAL can search them.

Wow, as if we needed yet another reason to vote against the Tumi TA.

BlueScholar 08-24-2024 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald (Post 3831653)
Be careful with that attitude. Once in a while the company starts searching FA's bags. Yes, they can do that.

As pilots, we buy our uniforms and bags, stuff. UAL tries to look in my bag, I'll call ALPA and a lawyer. They look in an FA's bag?? Here's the kicker, UAL pays for their uniforms, and bags. That's right. Their bag is UAL's property, so UAL can search them. In slow times managers get a burr up somehwere and decide to search FA's bags for "stolen" items. It's serious and you can get fired over a coke. Mainly liquor is what they are looking for but the precedent has been set for decades. That goes for left over crew meals and snacks too. Eat it on the plane is ok. Whatever you do, don't take it off the plane for the layover. Is it really worth your job??

Newbies beware......

BTW, yes, the bottled water was a thing during bankruptcy. It was eventually defined in the contract to fix that. Thanks to Glen......

I am pretty sure that there is a universal “by coming onto company property you agree to submit to searches” clause written into every employment contract regardless of who buys your bag

Guppydriver95 08-24-2024 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by BlueScholar (Post 3831711)
I am pretty sure that there is a universal “by coming onto company property you agree to submit to searches” clause written into every employment contract regardless of who buys your bag

You would be wrong, re pilots. There are a host of reasons, but one glaring reason is that a certain percentage of pilots have things in their bags that are SSI, and no supervisor is ever going to be allowed access to it. They’re simply out of their depth. Actually, not even a LEO can gain access, unless said LEO is a FAM, if the pilot falls into said category. Additionally, as earlier stated, they’re our bags, not the company’s. So unless the company rep has a search warrant, a qualified LEO, and a union rep present at the time of requested search, all pilots on the list are protected from this nonsense, regardless of SSI status.

But seriously 08-24-2024 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by Guppydriver95 (Post 3831719)
You would be wrong, re pilots. There are a host of reasons, but one glaring reason is that a certain percentage of pilots have things in their bags that are SSI, and no supervisor is ever going to be allowed access to it. They’re simply out of their depth. Actually, not even a LEO can gain access, unless said LEO is a FAM, if the pilot falls into said category. Additionally, as earlier stated, they’re our bags, not the company’s. So unless the company rep has a search warrant, a qualified LEO, and a union rep present at the time of requested search, all pilots on the list are protected from this nonsense, regardless of SSI status.

I don’t know any of the legalities involved, but just for argument’s sake:

A. FAs have SSI info in their manuals too
B. All our manuals are digital
C. Our managers are privy to that SSI also
D. My bag gets searched 2-3 times a week by TSA, Customs, or a foreign equivalent


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