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Old 11-01-2024 | 07:38 PM
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So where is this content originating from? Is this white smoke or black smoke? IS this ligit or are people just trying to hopelessly Speak this into existence.
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Old 11-01-2024 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
So where is this content originating from? Is this white smoke or black smoke? IS this ligit or are people just trying to hopelessly Speak this into existence.
It was supposedly under consideration before they decided on LAS. What has changed in less than 2yrs that would now make PHX more feasible for the company to make it a base (hub?) than it did in 2022?

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Old 11-01-2024 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by WXS15
It was supposedly under considerations before they decided on LAS. What has changed in less than 2yrs that would now make PHX more feasible for the company to make it a base (hub?) than it did in 2022?
Crew resources update today actually spells out what they look for. Surprisingly transparent.
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Old 11-01-2024 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Crew resources update today actually spells out what they look for. Surprisingly transparent.
where is this update?
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Old 11-01-2024 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JTwift
where is this update?
Bottom of the Nov 1 Crew Resources Update.

I still don't see the company opening a PHX base anytime soon (would love to be wrong) because it would cannibalize so many pilots from LAS, especially if the pairings were better, i.e. most trips did not have ANF.
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Old 11-01-2024 | 09:37 PM
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70% of the peope I fly with commute out of PHX to LAS. I really dont understand how it isn't in everyones best interest to open PHX and let LAS slowly dwindle down to the few guys who actually live there.
The 25 year widebody FOs are not going to leave SFO and LAX so that they can drive to work and fly the worst narrow body trips in the system.
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Old 11-02-2024 | 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Rodger Wilco
70% of the peope I fly with commute out of PHX to LAS. I really dont understand how it isn't in everyones best interest to open PHX and let LAS slowly dwindle down to the few guys who actually live there.
The 25 year widebody FOs are not going to leave SFO and LAX so that they can drive to work and fly the worst narrow body trips in the system.
I think we should just have the 73 be all satellite bases: CLE, MCO,LAS, PHX, MSY, BNA, ATL, DFW, CVG, BOS, SEA, ORF and MSP. Think we could set a new industry standard. BOOOOM!

I mean if some jerk chose to live in a high income tax hub city just to not commute.......well his bad decision shouldn't be my Problem dang it. Go fly the Bus or a widebody.
I shouldn't have to switch airlines just to not commute.
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Old 11-02-2024 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
I think we should just have the 73 be all satellite bases: CLE, MCO,LAS, PHX, MSY, BNA, ATL, DFW, CVG, BOS, SEA, ORF and MSP. Think we could set a new industry standard. BOOOOM!

I mean if some jerk chose to live in a high income tax hub city just to not commute.......well his bad decision shouldn't be my Problem dang it. Go fly the Bus or a widebody.
I shouldn't have to switch airlines just to not commute.
Bad decision? I did it and it’s been the best decision of my career.
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Old 11-02-2024 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by metx192
Bad decision? I did it and it’s been the best decision of my career.
Yes it's kind of my poor attempt at satire.
I want to please as much of the pilot group as we can, but when it comes to the amount of food at satellite bases: it's a zero sum game with their colleagues at the hubs.......not everyone gets this. The block hours out of satellites don't just come out of nowhere.

As someone has said, it's not going to be the 20 year widebody FO's. It's a lot of post pandemic hires, where presumably (excluding Envoy, PSA, Piedmontflow flows) they would have had thier choice of AA or any other place with a domecile there.......

Commuting and domecile location........ these are fairly easy things to discover it's not as if this is the 15th century and we don't know about the shape of the earth.
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
I think we should just have the 73 be all satellite bases: CLE, MCO,LAS, PHX, MSY, BNA, ATL, DFW, CVG, BOS, SEA, ORF and MSP. Think we could set a new industry standard. BOOOOM!

I mean if some jerk chose to live in a high income tax hub city just to not commute.......well his bad decision shouldn't be my Problem dang it. Go fly the Bus or a widebody.
I shouldn't have to switch airlines just to not commute.
sign me up for a ORF satellite base lol….
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