Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3873329)

ugggghhhhhh.... they certainly earn less than us, but 1/3......I'm rubbing my chin.

Originally Posted by Midsomer (Post 3873317)

Yes I have. The customers select plus points upgrade when they book the ticket. It’s not usually instantaneous they get their upgrade . No guarantee they get a seat upgrade. They will sell upgrades for non plus points up to check in cutoff time. Yes the list may be long but not all get seats. Also those plus points come with a minimum spend to achieve them. They aren’t gifted. Money exchanges hands and large amount for the chance to upgrade.

How many empty Polaris cabins do you see prior to the upgrade list being cleared one hour before departure? The ability to revenue control the inventory has been better at United than it has ever been. If you yourself really want a Polaris seat for your vacation buy yourself a seat.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3873360)

100 for the copilot.

Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3873372)

is this also like 1989 as well?

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3873360)

I am guessing 150 for the CA and 100 for the copilot. 250 total plus a very skinny benefits package. 370 for the CA and 240 for the copilot and relief pilot. 250 verses 750 plus a much more generous benefit package. Granted that the larger carriers in Europe pay more but they don't seem that interested in the AirFrame.

Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3873414)

an Aerlingus Captain is NOT earning less than a 2 year narrowbody FO at United. Also in your example above the European crew is unaugmented, while the US crew is augmented but the rates (simple addition) do not equal the sum.

It's ok man,...you ve like fumbled through every question and sort of moved the goalposts.
I don't have a degree is RASM/CASM either.....and it just proves to me that when it comes to all the economics of air travel.......there is stuff that we as pilots just don't know.........and there is no shame in that.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3873439)

Europeon airlines by regulation and their contracts use two pilots across the pond to anything east of the Mississippi which is where the XLR would fly. Aer Lingus is probably the highest paid of the airlines who might use the airframe.

Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3873483)

hmmm I guess the TAP crews I see at BOS and EWR.....maybe that third other FO I always see is just commuting or doing a LOSA audit...........

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3873439)

Europeon airlines by regulation and their contracts use two pilots across the pond to anything east of the Mississippi which is where the XLR would fly. Aer Lingus is probably the highest paid of the airlines who might use the airframe.

Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3873714)

and then a three man crew if it’s south of the Gulf of America, right?