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JayRalstonSmith 03-11-2025 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by Otie (Post 3890706)

God was he miserable.

Let me guess: You started the trip with the same diatribe about politics. He didn't want to engage (maybe he agreed with you, maybe he didn't, more likely didnt want to spend the trip talking politics) and you automatically assumed he's a Marxist, right?

jerryleber 03-11-2025 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3891275)
So I guess Russsian/Chinese/Iranian/N korea backed Cuban based missiles would be ok with you? Not any difference exept the " eye of the beholder".

Not any difference? The US already had nukes in Europe not to mention France and Britain's, none of which are in new NATO countries.

Spesiellsporing 03-11-2025 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by TechTanker (Post 3891158)
Thank you for making my point with your AI generated response.

#2. Kinda hard to have economic strength when your economy is “bankrupt” and in the crapper

#3. As mentioned at the end of your AI generated response there are other players like BRICS who is actively trying to over turn the Dollar and make their countries the hub of global finance.

#4. Again, not much depth in the financial markets if our economy is in the crapper.

#5. Geopolitical power. We have a great Military now but if our economy is in the toilet there won’t be any money to fund military spending.

#6. Yea that confidence would be gone in a heartbeat if we go “bankrupt”.

Look I know I was being kinda harsh earlier with my responses. But what I said still holds true. We cannot keep spending money like there is no tomorrow because I guarantee if nothing changes that rooster will come home to roost and none of us will like what happens. A little recession that lasts a few years will be the least of our problems. Republicans and Democrats need to come together and realize this is unsustainable. But I’m afraid Dems won’t be able to get over their TDS and Republicans won’t get over their MAGA.


The notion of our economy being a disaster is a fallacy. The numbers show quite the opposite. Our GDP is higher than any of the G7 economies.

Do there need to be targeted, rational, humane spending cuts? Absolutely. But we’re not going to put a dent in this with spending cuts alone. Taxes will also need to be addressed to reduce/eliminate the deficit. People are lying to themselves if they believe otherwise.

The Trump tariffs are nothing more than a regressive tax that will destroy the current 3.2 GDP. Targeted tariffs in specific scenarios have been beneficial. Trump’s use of tariffs based upon ill conceived notions of fairness and grievance is economic malpractice.

SonicFlyer 03-11-2025 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by Spesiellsporing (Post 3891370)
we’re not going to put a dent in this with spending cuts alone. Taxes will also need to be addressed to reduce/eliminate the deficit.

This is absolutely false.

jerryleber 03-11-2025 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 3891378)
This is absolutely false.

Really? Why? Show us your undoubtedly interesting assumptions and math.

Bahamasflyer 03-11-2025 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by hummingbear (Post 3890872)
Government is unilaterally canceling union contracts & our union brothers are applauding it. File that under “this is why we can’t have nice things”. I certainly have my opinions about the size & scope of TSA but the administration’s (dis)regard for organized labor is discouraging.
Remember we’ll be at the negotiating table again in a few years & possibly trying to claw back some purchasing power from the tariff economy. Question: do you think this move creates an environment that empowers labor or management?

OK…..why then wasn’t a single work group released under Biden despite the brunt of airline contracts being g well past the amendable date then???

answer that please

BlueScholar 03-11-2025 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer (Post 3891395)
OK…..why then wasn’t a single work group released under Biden despite the brunt of airline contracts being g well past the amendable date then???

answer that please

You're really trying to say that the government not releasing critical insdustries to go on strike is the same as the government dissolving unions?

Buck Rogers 03-11-2025 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by BlueScholar (Post 3891405)
You're really trying to say that the government not releasing critical insdustries to go on strike is the same as the government dissolving a unions?

You're really trying to say the government would let TSA go on strike.

For all I know maybe they are already prevented from going on strike. But, since they are there for "safety" and are front facing customer "service" reps, a strike to be paid like Flight attendants would be plausible.

If they are/were "union brothers" would I support that?

Rolling stikes like the French rail workers( happened to me 3 times over the years while on vacation in France). I didn't raise my fist in solidarity, was I supposed to?

jerryleber 03-11-2025 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3891416)
You're really trying to say the government would let TSA go on strike.

No, he's obviously not saying that, but beautiful strawman. Too funny.

SonicFlyer 03-11-2025 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by jerryleber (Post 3891387)
Really? Why? Show us your undoubtedly interesting assumptions and math.

It's real simple. Cut all unconstitutional spending. Keep income revenues where they are at until the debt is paid off, then lower income to match spending. This isn't difficult.


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