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UALinIAH 03-15-2025 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by jerryleber (Post 3893299)
"You need to give it a rest. He won. You're going to have a heart attack at this rate. Plus you come across as the pot calling the kettle black when you cry...."

Jerry believe it or not we're on the same side. I'm a lifelong Dem but I hate what has happened to the party I support. Grew up the kid of a pipefitter (dad died of Mesothelioma from 30+ yr working at an Alcoa smelting plant). I just hate what is currently being peddlled I'm a southern Dem and happen to think Carville is right. Just be quiet and let the current administration wreck itself. Touting Trump is bad while peddling stuff 80% of America is against will never win national elections.

jerryleber 03-15-2025 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 3893308)
Jerry believe it or not we're on the same side.

I do agree with your assessment, but I disagree with presuming to know posters' motivations much less their health status so I used your words to illustrate the point.

I am a lifelong Independent, but agree with your assessment that the Dems need to be more realistic in their assessment of their current powerlessness, "let the current administration wreck itself" and remind themselves that elections require getting the majority of the votes not pontificating from a high horse.

That said we cannot sit idly by while the Constitution is shredded. As usual in recent history Congress is impotent and the courts are the last line of defense. The mid-term elections are the key and the Senate races will be tough for the Dems.

DogPit 03-15-2025 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by Midsomer (Post 3893283)
The statements being made are not wrong. MAGA is cult that supports a Treasonous Orange Clown.

Who will be the first maga pilot to volunteer their teenage daughter to spend a weekend with the Tate brothers?

Logic and morals are lost on the MAGA crowd. They thump the Bible while ignoring its content.

Look, the stupidest thing I'll read all week. Are you capable of an original thought?

DogPit 03-15-2025 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by tallpilot (Post 3893302)
The primary system in most states makes this difficult. In closed primaries the most radical wins, in open primaries the other side tries to vote for the most unelectable if they have a safe incumbent on their side. Nothing about the system encouages thoughtful debate, nuanced positions or an informed, critically thinking electorate. It's divide and conquer tribal warfare which has worked fairly well for the elite but not so much for the proverbial average Joe.

Would have been nice if the democrats actually held a primary and let the voters decide who to nominate.

jerryleber 03-15-2025 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by DogPit (Post 3893275)
You are so embarrassingly stupid it’s astonishing.


Originally Posted by DogPit (Post 3893318)
Look, the stupidest thing I'll read all week. Are you capable of an original thought?

Are you familiar with psychological phenomena of projection?

DogPit 03-15-2025 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by jerryleber (Post 3893322)
Are you familiar with psychological phenomena of projection?

Someone get their feelings hurt?

jerryleber 03-15-2025 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by DogPit (Post 3893323)
Someone get their feelings hurt?

That's an excellent example. Very well done. Hilarious!

Peoplemvr 03-15-2025 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 3893261)
Maga are blind to the blatant corruption and incompetence. The doj is now all about revenge as American pride is dwindling. Globally we are laughed at and unliked. Rules of engagement and war are being rewritten as our government is dismantled and changed. Sad times to be an American.


Screen name checks out.

ThumbsUp 03-15-2025 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3893252)
Just Google it. There are hundreds of sources and no one refutes it because it's true.

Here is a quick summary of how often.
President Trump hit an important milestone as he returned to Florida over the Thanksgiving holiday: 100 visits to Mar-a-Lago. In 1,040 days as president, he has prioritized visiting his properties over the course of his presidency, making time for nearly 400 visits to the businesses that he still owns and profits from. Of all of his properties, it appears that Mar-a-Lago is his favorite to funnel untold sums of taxpayer money to, even rebranding Mar-a-Lago the “Winter White House.”


No one refutes it, because it's probably true, but it's also not unique. Presidential travel is ungodly expensive, espcially overseas travel.

2StgTurbine 03-15-2025 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3893415)
Presidential travel Governing is ungodly expensive...

Running this country is expensive no matter who is in charge. We can all look at the numbers and claim it is wasteful, but it costs a bunch of money to provide safe a reliable working environments for humans who have to travel to perform their jobs. Just imagine if there is a forum full of airline passengers complaining about how much airlines spend on transportation and logding for a widebody crew overnighting in Paris for 30 hours.


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