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Peoplemvr 05-06-2025 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by BlueScholar (Post 3910336)
Dude flies to Mar a Lago every weekend. The Jax/Miami center manning and metering is what is going to get his and his cronies' attention.

Screen name checks .

JackReacher 05-06-2025 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3910016)
United is now telling customers to avoid Newark. What a mess!

Seriously, how long before a catastrophic event occurs in Newark due to failures of the ATC system. Eventually the Swiss cheese holes line up. And to be clear, this is in no way any disrespect to the hard working controllers out there. I know they are doing their best with garbage equipment.

Gooselives 05-06-2025 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by JackReacher (Post 3910448)
Seriously, how long before a catastrophic event occurs in Newark due to failures of the ATC system. Eventually the Swiss cheese holes line up. And to be clear, this is in no way any disrespect to the hard working controllers out there. I know they are doing their best with garbage equipment.

the equipment maintenance team did get doged thanks current administration

iahflyr 05-07-2025 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3910458)
the equipment maintenance team did get doged thanks current administration

I had not heard that, but I don’t doubt it. Do you have a source for this?

SonicFlyer 05-07-2025 06:48 AM

This is what happens when the government runs the airspace... and the airports.

DogPit 05-07-2025 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 3910520)
I had not heard that, but I don’t doubt it. Do you have a source for this?

The View...

hummingbear 05-07-2025 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 3910520)
I had not heard that, but I don’t doubt it. Do you have a source for this?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...s/83455354007/

“Industry advocates warned that these kind of equipment failures, which were already relatively common, would become more frequent amid DOGE cuts at the FAA. While the layoffs did not impact air traffic control tower personnel directly, and many of the probationary employees who were terminated were ultimately re-hired, the affected positions included maintenance personnel responsible for equipment upkeep, according to union representatives. Duffy said during the press conference last week that the FAA and DOT are planning a major announcement about new air traffic control equipment this week.”

Emphasis mine. Ostensibly this could be verified on the DOGE website but I’m not interested in digging through it as a lot of those claims have proven to be of dubious authenticity anyway. Not to worry, though, the “big announcement” is coming this week!

Grumble 05-07-2025 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 3910531)
This is what happens when the government runs the airspace... and the airports.


Done much flying around Europe and the privatized ATC? F that.

JoePatroni 05-07-2025 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 3910564)
Done much flying around Europe and the privatized ATC? F that.

What about it is worse than here?

ThumbsUp 05-07-2025 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 3910564)
Done much flying around Europe and the privatized ATC? F that.

Yes. Both they and Canada seem to be doing ok.


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