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Old 10-10-2025 | 03:08 PM
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Today another volunteer who was recently in a fairly significant position within ALPA was announced as having a new management role. This seems to becoming more of a trend as of late and it’s a bit worrisome. Please voice your concerns to your reps (if you have one, sorry DCA F/O’s).
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Old 10-10-2025 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
Today another volunteer who was recently in a fairly significant position within ALPA was announced as having a new management role. This seems to becoming more of a trend as of late and it’s a bit worrisome. Please voice your concerns to your reps (if you have one, sorry DCA F/O’s).
Announced today by the former MEC Secretary, who also violated MEC policy to take his management job.
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Old 10-12-2025 | 03:35 AM
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30 pieces of silver? Or much more, I’m sure……
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Old 10-12-2025 | 04:33 AM
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There are two types of ladder climbers.
Via Union
Via management (includes check airmen)

Many times they criss cross. They ultimately have the same goal, avoid being a line pilot at all costs.
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Old 10-12-2025 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyGodKing
There are two types of ladder climbers.
Via Union
Via management (includes check airmen)

Many times they criss cross. They ultimately have the same goal, avoid being a line pilot at all costs.
Correct. They aren't fleeing; that was the plan all along.
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Old 10-12-2025 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyGodKing
There are two types of ladder climbers.
Via Union
Via management (includes check airmen)

Many times they criss cross. They ultimately have the same goal, avoid being a line pilot at all costs.
So there is only really one type...

Disclaimer, i do think there is union-only guys doing it to help their fellow pilots, not sure the same goes for the management types
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Old 10-12-2025 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
So there is only really one type...

Disclaimer, i do think there is union-only guys doing it to help their fellow pilots, not sure the same goes for the management types
No need for uncertainty. The management types most definitely do NOT have the line pilot’s interest at heart. If you don’t toe the company line, you won’t advance in the management structure. This isn’t debatable.
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Old 10-12-2025 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
No need for uncertainty. The management types most definitely do NOT have the line pilot’s interest at heart. If you don’t toe the company line, you won’t advance in the management structure. This isn’t debatable.
ALPA is no different. How may reps do it for the good of the pilots versus the trip drops and FPL? Take the DCA ALPA council. That whole thing is a clown show and has been for years. Anne seems to have found a way to stay home and get paid while writing unabomber manifestos, the outgoing vice chair created a video that was cringe worthy. Anne wanted power and to put her husband in a nonflying high pay position. I don’t think that move was for the good of the pilots.

I’ve met great pilots that do ALPA work and great management pilots. It’s the person not the position. I think Fabian was a good example of being a stand up management pilot.
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Old 10-12-2025 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Midsomer
ALPA is no different. How may reps do it for the good of the pilots versus the trip drops and FPL? Take the DCA ALPA council. That whole thing is a clown show and has been for years. Anne seems to have found a way to stay home and get paid while writing unabomber manifestos, the outgoing vice chair created a video that was cringe worthy. Anne wanted power and to put her husband in a nonflying high pay position. I don’t think that move was for the good of the pilots.

I’ve met great pilots that do ALPA work and great management pilots. It’s the person not the position. I think Fabian was a good example of being a stand
up management pilot.

This is classic false equivalency, IMO. Yes, there are occasional stand up management guys(Fabian) and occasional selfish ALPA reps. But the MAJORITY of ALPA volunteers, especially the pilots in the trenches doing the day to day committee work, are indeed there to better the profession. The same philosophy applies to management; most are there to climb the corporate ladder and that requires opposing much of what our union fights for, and a few still remember where they came from and care about the line pilot. It’s not really a secret. ALPA is here to maximize our earnings and quality of life, while being a voice to promote safety issues when the company tries cutting cost corners that could negatively impact it. It stands to reason that when one entity actively tries to improve our work life and pay and the other actively tries to minimize that effort, the people in each organization are going to reflect those values, for the most part. There are no absolutes, but ALPA reps and management pilots are definitely not the same
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Old 10-12-2025 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Midsomer
ALPA is no different. How may reps do it for the good of the pilots versus the trip drops and FPL? Take the DCA ALPA council. That whole thing is a clown show and has been for years. Anne seems to have found a way to stay home and get paid while writing unabomber manifestos, the outgoing vice chair created a video that was cringe worthy. Anne wanted power and to put her husband in a nonflying high pay position. I don’t think that move was for the good of the pilots.

I’ve met great pilots that do ALPA work and great management pilots. It’s the person not the position. I think Fabian was a good example of being a stand up management pilot.

shes on LTD.. not FPL
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