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DogPit 11-01-2025 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by 744ButtonPusher (Post 3965883)
section 6 doesn’t force people to go to work an not get paid

They will get paid.

jdt30 11-02-2025 01:00 AM


Originally Posted by Agent62 (Post 3965808)
Several articles today about Kirby warming up to this admin to grease the skids on a JetBlue merger. Does certainly appear to be the case at least a bit.

I wonder if they let JetBlue do it's thing for another year or two and after United pays down more debt they pull the trigger with a friendly admin.

why pay down our debt so we can take over all of JetBlue’s?

METO Guido 11-02-2025 02:20 AM


Originally Posted by jdt30 (Post 3965905)
why pay down our debt so we can take over all of JetBlue’s?

Gates, slots, market share and most importantly, mainline fare pricing power/inelastic demand.


jdt30 11-02-2025 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 3965911)
Gates, slots, market share and most importantly, mainline fare pricing power/inelastic demand.

9.42 billion dollars worth of debt for gates at JFK. I don’t think so, or I really hope not.

I think it would be smarter to let AA merge and then get the gates.

METO Guido 11-02-2025 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by jdt30 (Post 3965927)
9.42 billion dollars worth of debt for gates at JFK. I don’t think so, or I really hope not.

I think it would be smarter to let AA merge and then get the gates.

BOS, EWR, FLL, LAX, MCO. But you’re right of course, debt service mitigation will define any deal. Above all, SK is a numbers cross dresser:)

jdt30 11-02-2025 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 3965939)
BOS, EWR, FLL, LAX, MCO. But you’re right of course, debt service mitigation will define any deal. Above all, SK is a numbers cross dresser:)

I’m rarely right about anything, but you’re correct about SK

METO Guido 11-02-2025 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by jdt30 (Post 3965942)
I’m rarely right about anything, but you’re correct about SK

That’s not what they saw at your interview or in training. You know, 9b ain’t what it once was. Musk paid what, 5x more for twitter? SK’s stage stunt won’t be soon forgotten. But his continued success puts it all in perspective. Everyone makes mistakes. Talent is what sells & what United buys.
https://youtu.be/v0KpfrJE4zw?si=8ILFK6W0pfswcPy4

at6d 11-02-2025 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by St Exupery (Post 3965833)
This reminds me of the proverb… “It’s better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you’re a fool than to open it and remove all doubt”.

Mark Twain for the win. Anything distributed from a massive bureaucracy to the population via rationing is guaranteed to be highly inefficient, cost prohibitive, and imbedded in corruption.

Turbosina 11-02-2025 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 3965996)
Mark Twain for the win. Anything distributed from a massive bureaucracy to the population via rationing is guaranteed to be highly inefficient, cost prohibitive, and imbedded in corruption.

What is our corporate for-profit healthcare system, other than exactly what you describe?

(I'm not in favor of a nationalized healthcare system. But we spend a staggering amount of our GDP on healthcare...twice the average of other developed countries. And our outcomes are middling at best. We are lucky to have excellent coverage at UAL, but we are a tiny minority. For most people, navigating the American healthcare system when you have a health issue is an infuriating, maddening, soul-destroying experience. That's assuming you can get coverage in the first place.

744ButtonPusher 11-02-2025 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by DogPit (Post 3965886)
They will get paid.

Sure they will get paid eventually but many of them live paycheck to paycheck and the longer this goes on the more they have to dip into their savings (if they have any). If you are being told to go to work, your check should show up on-time.. this IOU garbage is ridiculous.

Comparing section 6 to this shutdown is disingenuous, our checks still come on time when our contracts become amenable..


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