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Originally Posted by St Exupery
(Post 3966068)
the GDP spend is a red herring. How much innovation in healthcare and new drugs come out of anywhere but the U.S.? Less than 50%. Much of that is because other countries regulate how much a company can charge for a drug. Americans pay much more for the same drug here than you would pay elsewhere.
. H€LL, take something like the epipen - currently selling for around $600 for a two pak, maybe $200 for the approved generic version.. alt=""https://i.postimg.cc/XqZV71P7/IMG-7796.jpg The active ingredient - epinephrine was patented 122 years ago. Autoinjectors were developed by the Army for nerve gas treatment in 1959, first with the AtroPen (for atropine) and later for 2-PAM chloride. Actual cost for an epinephrine autoinjectot is under $5. And the company making it today isn’t even the one that developed it, they just bought it and promptly started jacking up the prices: https://www.businessinsider.com/epip...percent-2016-8 |
Originally Posted by Name User
(Post 3966092)
The overall cost of medical care isn't due to the lack of insurance dollars, but because of it. Insurance has greatly exacerbated the cost of healthcare. If healthcare insurance was designed like car insurance, used in catastrophic situations like long term illnesses, overall costs would be much less. Incidentally, the ACA actually outlawed catastrophic plans because "they were pointless". No way should insurance providers have a publicly traded profit incentive. National health care program, similar to Tricare. Eliminate the state fiefdoms for insurance companies. You get a premium refund to cover the cost of gym memberships, fitness clubs, etc. Every two years you have to do a physical fitness test and medical eval to determine health and fitness level, BMI, etc. The results of this test determine your insurance premiums. Waivers for pre existing conditions that are genetic or unpreventable (metabolic, drug, smoking, diet induced, etc don’t count). |
Originally Posted by Grumble
(Post 3966326)
No way should insurance providers have a publicly traded profit incentive. National health care program, similar to Tricare. Eliminate the state fiefdoms for insurance companies.
You get a premium refund to cover the cost of gym memberships, fitness clubs, etc. Every two years you have to do a physical fitness test and medical eval to determine health and fitness level, BMI, etc. The results of this test determine your insurance premiums. Waivers for pre existing conditions that are genetic or unpreventable (metabolic, drug, smoking, diet induced, etc don’t count). |
Originally Posted by Grumble
(Post 3966326)
No way should insurance providers have a publicly traded profit incentive. National health care program, similar to Tricare. Eliminate the state fiefdoms for insurance companies.
You get a premium refund to cover the cost of gym memberships, fitness clubs, etc. Every two years you have to do a physical fitness test and medical eval to determine health and fitness level, BMI, etc. The results of this test determine your insurance premiums. Waivers for pre existing conditions that are genetic or unpreventable (metabolic, drug, smoking, diet induced, etc don’t count). |
Originally Posted by Grumble
(Post 3966326)
No way should insurance providers have a publicly traded profit incentive. National health care program, similar to Tricare. Eliminate the state fiefdoms for insurance companies.
You get a premium refund to cover the cost of gym memberships, fitness clubs, etc. Every two years you have to do a physical fitness test and medical eval to determine health and fitness level, BMI, etc. The results of this test determine your insurance premiums. Waivers for pre existing conditions that are genetic or unpreventable (metabolic, drug, smoking, diet induced, etc don’t count). |
Originally Posted by jdt30
(Post 3965927)
9.42 billion dollars worth of debt for gates at JFK. I don’t think so, or I really hope not.
I think it would be smarter to let AA merge and then get the gates. |
Originally Posted by TFAYD
(Post 3966393)
sure - and while you are add it increased premiums or coverage exclusions for “risky” activities like mountain biking, skiing and maybe even flying GA.
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Our personal accident insurance excludes anything caused while operating a general aviation aircraft.
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Originally Posted by tallpilot
(Post 3966070)
Can we cure disease instead of making maintenance drugs that cost tens of thousands per month for a lifetime?]
But I agree, I would welcome that. There has to be more incentive (in our country at least) than “it’s just the right thing to do.” |
Originally Posted by Grumble
(Post 3966501)
They do it for life insurance…
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