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Old 04-15-2026 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PK387
This is blown way out of proportion, imo. Sure, it would have been great to beat the COVID wave, but younger people hired in 2025 and beyond should still have great careers.

Based on the numbers I’m seeing, a 30 year old hired today should finish around seniority number 750-800. Someone who’s 35 today should retire around 2700-2800. Still an absolutely fantastic career any way you slice it.

And have to factor in growth which we don’t know. Last 6 years has been excellent, what future knows no one knows but the math won’t be good at any company based purely on retirements
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Old 04-15-2026 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Can’t say definitively, but I would bet, yes someone hired today at 30 there is a better than average chance there are probably 5000 pilots 30 or younger already on property. CAL had a pretty young group at the SLI, and post merger new hires make up 2/3 of the 19k pilots on property now.

Anyone in their early 30’s hired in the last year, go to the seniority calculator in CCS, and run the “pilots younger and senior to you” list and tell us how many that is.
5000 pilots in their 20's? No way. more like 700. I'm a recent hire, 30yo and I'll retire in the 600s.
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Old 04-15-2026 | 02:50 PM
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Interesting data! Guess I'll have to check when I get on property.

Looking to be 31ish when hired based on current projections. Would be curious how the numbers look!
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Old 04-15-2026 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by KnightNight
And have to factor in growth which we don’t know. Last 6 years has been excellent, what future knows no one knows but the math won’t be good at any company based purely on retirements
the problem with growth is where do you put all those additional planes? all the others are growing as well. in addition, is atc going to get more efficient (because they have a say as well). a ceo can mouth off about massive growth, however, the infrastructure has to grow as well. are we building more airports, ramps, runways, parking lots, etc etc.
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Old 04-15-2026 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Uninteresting
the problem with growth is where do you put all those additional planes? all the others are growing as well. in addition, is atc going to get more efficient (because they have a say as well). a ceo can mouth off about massive growth, however, the infrastructure has to grow as well. are we building more airports, ramps, runways, parking lots, etc etc.
Hardly mouthing off as United has been the fastest growing airline over the last 5 years by far. The idea that there is nowhere to park planes and that the NAS will not be able to handle UA’s growth is ridiculous. Not all airlines are growing. Some are shrinking, some might no longer exist. United is taking market share from some airlines etc…
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Old 04-15-2026 | 03:38 PM
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Hardly mouthing off as United has been the fastest growing airline over the last 5 years by far. The idea that there is nowhere to park planes and that the NAS will not be able to handle UA’s growth is ridiculous. Not all airlines are growing. Some are shrinking, some might no longer exist. United is taking market share from some airlines etc…
Also some of the new frames will replace older frames as well…. It would be foolish to think that the older frames will fly forever…
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Old 04-15-2026 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
Also some of the new frames will replace older frames as well…. It would be foolish to think that the older frames will fly forever…
This year shows 135 new planes coming in and about 20 being parked (all older Airbus). That's the published fleet plan for 2026. Next year who knows?
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Old 04-15-2026 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Uninteresting
what does that make wba doh? by way of comparison, delta wba recently went to 2014. good times on the way for all it seems.
did the Delta “wall” fall on the true WB (330/350) or the 764?

if it’s the 764 apples to apples can’t be compared since United flies them all on the same fleet. The 764 “wall” fell at United years ago.
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Old 04-15-2026 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
did the Delta “wall” fall on the true WB (330/350) or the 764?

if it’s the 764 apples to apples can’t be compared since United flies them all on the same fleet. The 764 “wall” fell at United years ago.
who cares. 764/5 at dl pays top rate ($484). is it top rate at ual? it looks like happy learned how to putt.
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Old 04-15-2026 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Uninteresting
who cares. 764/5 at dl pays top rate ($484). is it top rate at ual?
In the case of the 764 it's identical to 777/787 pay. So the senior end of the 75/76 pilot pool (at least on the east coast) can just bid for 764 trips. Not sure if much 764 flying is available for the other bases.
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