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GPullR 05-08-2026 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 4033507)
‘maybe one day you’ll get to figure it out yourself…

8000+ hours in 767 and 787 . Landed on 29 in both many many times. You are as usual so wrong. Give me tons of wheel brakes and a big plane over 737 on 29 all day.

And im assuming you have no answer to my question.
Did you just get out of ER?

JamesNoBrakes 05-08-2026 08:47 PM

When you get to the pearly gates, you will be judged on how many times you landed on 29 successfully. It counts people.

METO Guido 05-08-2026 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes (Post 4033634)
When you get to the pearly gates, you will be judged on how many times you landed on 29 successfully. It counts people.

But before you arrive, just a few questions..
Was accident aircraft approved for approach to landing runway as reported for conditions? Yes

Was accident aircraft operated within required performance data? Yes

Was accident aircraft below standard glide path? Yes

Were required deviation instruments/indicators above/below standard glide path for charted displaced threshold runway operational? Yes

Was/were glide path deviation callout(s) made at anytime by any assigned crewmember?

Hedley 05-09-2026 03:50 AM


Originally Posted by GPullR (Post 4033630)
8000+ hours in 767 and 787 . Landed on 29 in both many many times. You are as usual so wrong. Give me tons of wheel brakes and a big plane over 737 on 29 all day.

Yes, the 737 might come in “a little” fast, but at least the brakes suck.🤪

ugleeual 05-09-2026 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by GPullR (Post 4033630)
8000+ hours in 767 and 787 . Landed on 29 in both many many times. You are as usual so wrong. Give me tons of wheel brakes and a big plane over 737 on 29 all day.

And im assuming you have no answer to my question.
Did you just get out of ER?

I generally don’t answer stupid questions… but I’ll answer this one because the younger pilots need to see how wrong you are. Your bravado and apparently continued bad threat forward thinking will eventually catch up to you… bad decisions generally ends in threads just like this one. I’m guessing the crew on this flight thought the same as you… but probably won’t do 29 again…

CousinEddie 05-09-2026 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 4033666)
I generally don’t answer stupid questions… but I’ll answer this one because the younger pilots need to see how wrong you are. Your bravado and apparently continued bad threat forward thinking will eventually catch up to you… bad decisions generally ends in threads just like this one. I’m guessing the crew on this flight thought the same as you… but probably won’t do 29 again…

So all UAL operations on runway 29 should be prohibited as a result of this incident in your view. Is that what you are saying? Landing on 29 is a “bad decision.”

ugleeual 05-09-2026 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by CousinEddie (Post 4033677)
So all UAL operations on runway 29 should be prohibited as a result of this incident in your view. Is that what you are saying? Landing on 29 is a “bad decision.”

read the entire thread and you’ll be able to answer this question yourself.

GPullR 05-09-2026 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 4033666)
I generally don’t answer stupid questions… but I’ll answer this one because the younger pilots need to see how wrong you are. Your bravado and apparently continued bad threat forward thinking will eventually catch up to you… bad decisions generally ends in threads just like this one. I’m guessing the crew on this flight thought the same as you… but probably won’t do 29 again…

I usually dont respond to people who have zero defense or any intelligent insight into a topic , but in this case we are all waiting for you to say something that contributes and defends your statement. All we have is word salad. Not a single statement defending your missguided position. If you are scared to fly anyhthibg but straight in 12000 ft runways, just say that. Still waiting for your explanation of why a heavy aircraft into 29 with 30kts of headwind is so much harder then a NB. And go... .

11atsomto 05-09-2026 05:51 AM

Let me throw this hypothetical out there for you.

You are in the left seat and have just upgraded to the 75/76 from the 320...cause now you can finally hold good stuff. You consolidated but still kind of new.....so you are not yet "Blue", but otherwise very experienced as far as the company goes.. You are operating domestic unaugmented 764 to EWR. Your FO has more time on the airframe than you but she has less than 2 years on property, (she used the vacancy during her indoc and never flew the narrow body for UAL). It's her leg and she asks if you could request 22L....as she hasnt yet done 29 in the 764, only once as PM on the 757. You say "Oh come on it's nothing I've done it hundreds of times on the a320, it's so easy to do, I don't know why we make such a big deal about it. There is a first time for everything you are gonna have to do it eventually."......she succumbs to your occupational peer pressure and accepts it reluctantly. Then you hit a light pole. Imagine how you sound on that CVR........

METO Guido 05-09-2026 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 4033700)
Let me throw this hypothetical out there for you.

You are in the left seat and have just upgraded to the 75/76 from the 320...cause now you can finally hold good stuff. You consolidated but still kind of new.....so you are not yet "Blue", but otherwise very experienced as far as the company goes.. You are operating domestic unaugmented 764 to EWR. Your FO has more time on the airframe than you but she has less than 2 years on property, (she used the vacancy during her indoc and never flew the narrow body for UAL). It's her leg and she asks if you could request 22L....as she hasnt yet done 29 in the 764, only once as PM on the 757. You say "Oh come on it's nothing I've done it hundreds of times on the a320, it's so easy to do, I don't know why we make such a big deal about it. There is a first time for everything you are gonna have to do it eventually."......she succumbs to your occupational peer pressure and accepts it reluctantly. Then you hit a light pole. Imagine how you sound on that CVR........

uh oh. We’re low, go around, flaps 20.


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