Flight time NPRM and UA/CO
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Net effect?
So what is everyones opinion on the net effect of the NPRM as it stands as far as a percentage of new crew required?
4-7% has been tossed about for pax carriers. A UPS bud said their union said only 3-4% for them due to
Available manpower. A reliable source at FedEx says they'll be hiring hard core of it goes through.
So how about UNICAL? 5%? Not barring any almost certain help in JCBA?
4-7% has been tossed about for pax carriers. A UPS bud said their union said only 3-4% for them due to
Available manpower. A reliable source at FedEx says they'll be hiring hard core of it goes through.
So how about UNICAL? 5%? Not barring any almost certain help in JCBA?
#13
So what is everyones opinion on the net effect of the NPRM as it stands as far as a percentage of new crew required?
4-7% has been tossed about for pax carriers. A UPS bud said their union said only 3-4% for them due to
Available manpower. A reliable source at FedEx says they'll be hiring hard core of it goes through.
So how about UNICAL? 5%? Not barring any almost certain help in JCBA?
4-7% has been tossed about for pax carriers. A UPS bud said their union said only 3-4% for them due to
Available manpower. A reliable source at FedEx says they'll be hiring hard core of it goes through.
So how about UNICAL? 5%? Not barring any almost certain help in JCBA?
CAL has protections to keep IRO's via the CBA where they might not be required on some of the "shorter" oceanic flights with these new rest rules. Other than that, at first glance it looks like a wash to me. We'll see what the MEC's have to say after they crunch the numbers.
#14
So what is everyones opinion on the net effect of the NPRM as it stands as far as a percentage of new crew required?
4-7% has been tossed about for pax carriers. A UPS bud said their union said only 3-4% for them due to
Available manpower. A reliable source at FedEx says they'll be hiring hard core of it goes through.
So how about UNICAL? 5%? Not barring any almost certain help in JCBA?
4-7% has been tossed about for pax carriers. A UPS bud said their union said only 3-4% for them due to
Available manpower. A reliable source at FedEx says they'll be hiring hard core of it goes through.
So how about UNICAL? 5%? Not barring any almost certain help in JCBA?
#15
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I'd suggest that you're wrong, not in interpreting the charts, but assuming a JCBA will have the new United working to FAR. Few organized airlines currently work to FARs, why would UAL/CAL start now? Work rules are the pad between the FARs and current quality of life and as you point out; a JCBA must show marked improvements.
As has always been the case, you get what you negotiate and if UAL/CAL pilots view the NPRM as the starting point instead of the current contract.....we're screwed.
As has always been the case, you get what you negotiate and if UAL/CAL pilots view the NPRM as the starting point instead of the current contract.....we're screwed.
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So what is everyones opinion on the net effect of the NPRM as it stands as far as a percentage of new crew required?
4-7% has been tossed about for pax carriers. A UPS bud said their union said only 3-4% for them due to
Available manpower. A reliable source at FedEx says they'll be hiring hard core of it goes through.
So how about UNICAL? 5%? Not barring any almost certain help in JCBA?
4-7% has been tossed about for pax carriers. A UPS bud said their union said only 3-4% for them due to
Available manpower. A reliable source at FedEx says they'll be hiring hard core of it goes through.
So how about UNICAL? 5%? Not barring any almost certain help in JCBA?
#17
HSLD,
I thought the CAL contract was effectively FAR's. There were no limitations versus the UAL contract for flight/duty days. Again, this will be something we either pay for or we lose. But it is another chip in the company basket when it comes to leverage.
Need we also say that this POS NPRM is ALPA Endorsed! Those tool bags running ALPA are complete morons. It is high time to remove ALPA as our voice at the major airline level. They are nothing more than shills for the RJ pilots and don't have one concern about the legacy pilots, except for those golden dues dollars. We need to cut the cord, put Judas Prater and Paul Rice-a-roni on the street. Let them go try to find 500K a year jobs where they actually have to do something and are held accountable for their actions. As it stands now they get THEIRS at OUR expense.
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