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Old 10-12-2010, 07:18 AM
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So now that the merger is off and running I have heard from several places on the CAL side that Ipad's have been discussed as a means of carrying our flight docs (FOM, Jepps, etc).

I am curious what the UAL side has been hearing from the rumor mill. Obviously before we can go SOC we have to get both sides the same since UAL has ship sets and CAL still has to carry brain bags (good spot for a United Against Outsourcing sticker by the way).
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Originally Posted by luv757 View Post
So now that the merger is off and running I have heard from several places on the CAL side that Ipad's have been discussed as a means of carrying our flight docs (FOM, Jepps, etc).

I am curious what the UAL side has been hearing from the rumor mill. Obviously before we can go SOC we have to get both sides the same since UAL has ship sets and CAL still has to carry brain bags (good spot for a United Against Outsourcing sticker by the way).
I like the sticker!

I have heard the IPad rumor as well, but I can't substantiate it. Sounds like a no brainer to me. Companies are beginning to find out what a great little device that thing is.

Not dragging a bag around is great, but not without some minor consequences. All in all, I don't miss that thing a bit.
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Originally Posted by luv757 View Post
So now that the merger is off and running I have heard from several places on the CAL side that Ipad's have been discussed as a means of carrying our flight docs (FOM, Jepps, etc).

I am curious what the UAL side has been hearing from the rumor mill. Obviously before we can go SOC we have to get both sides the same since UAL has ship sets and CAL still has to carry brain bags (good spot for a United Against Outsourcing sticker by the way).

I heard this rumor when the Ipad fist came out. I don't see it happening. All the documents are in the aircraft (shipsets). Why would they spend money on a fancy gadget when they don't have to?

My bet is that when the SOC is finished - CAL jets will have shipsets and you will no longer have to drag that bag around.
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Just did a PC (checkride) yesterday in Denver and that question came up. In the training center at least, there are absolutely no expectations or even rumors about getting iPads for line pilots.

There is an LCA meeting in ORD today with Abbott (sp?) and that could be a topic for the Newco. It'll be interesting to see if there is reversal of some of the recent staffing shifts at UA.
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I recently flew with a guy who did some part time flight manager work. He said United looked at the IPads and it was going to cost around $2 million ish to outfit the group. The snag is that United wants Java on the IPad and Apple wasn't willing to work around that issue.

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Asking Apple to put JAVA on the iPad, would be like asking Boeing to put the 737-100 flight deck on the 787.
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Originally Posted by JDFlyer View Post
Asking Apple to put JAVA on the iPad, would be like asking Boeing to put the 737-100 flight deck on the 787.
You must remember, United uses a computer system called Unimatic. The average years of service of our F/A's flying to Asia is less than the age of Unimatic. That's saying something.

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Translating Fred Abbott 101: we he says 'explore' that simply means he will ignore what u said. If u ask me the same question again a year from now he will tell you that it's an interesting idea to explore. Fred has few gifts, but shoving his foot in his mouth is a talent he excels at.
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Originally Posted by JDFlyer View Post
Asking Apple to put JAVA on the iPad, would be like asking Boeing to put the 737-100 flight deck on the 787.

Close, expecting United to deploy a current technology for front line employees would be like asking Boeing to put the 737-100 flight deck on the 787.
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Or to put a sidestick on the 787.
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