United/CAL pass travel survey opens today
12-15-2010, 07:09 AM
#161
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Originally Posted by EWRflyr
All true as well, but it still doesn't absolve Continental of paying for the leases on the airframes to the banks. As of now, XJT has no "airplanes" as assets.
Just a paper company, that employs people and simply leases/rents out everything.
Sure, the paint shop, seat shop, etc. But nothing of real value.
12-15-2010, 08:58 AM
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17 pages of pi$$ing in fans....my two cents...
WE HAVE NO PASS PRIVILEGES AT UNITED!
Ok, technically we "do", but over the last three years load factors have gotten so high that getting on a UAL plane has become a joke. And with all the ropes of synerjism which will soon be arcing through the sky, the load factors will only get worse. Leaving the east or west coast on a transcon? Take a pillow for your ass because you'll be up front.
I travel frequently and I am usually on the jump seat. If I do get a seat, it's a center seat in steerage. So, if you want to take your wife, GF, kids etc.....good luck!
Have you checked the fees for companion travel? F that! They are often only slightly less than buying a guaranteed seat. F that again!
Active employees at UNICAL ought to get a few bones tossed their way WRT travel. A handful of FC SP passes per year at the very least. Absent that, show me the money. I have stacks of attaboy / incentive passes (on time 14, etc.). They are worthless. Show me the money.
The pass privileges I enjoyed when at Express were far superior to the crap UAL doles out. And the ones at the previous cesspool were even better!
Fly safe, very very safe. And when it's getting really safe, slow down and look around, you probably forgot to do something even safer. "Safety first, at all times and in all things"....its in the FOM. Well, at least it was when I got hired.
FTP.
WE HAVE NO PASS PRIVILEGES AT UNITED!
Ok, technically we "do", but over the last three years load factors have gotten so high that getting on a UAL plane has become a joke. And with all the ropes of synerjism which will soon be arcing through the sky, the load factors will only get worse. Leaving the east or west coast on a transcon? Take a pillow for your ass because you'll be up front.
I travel frequently and I am usually on the jump seat. If I do get a seat, it's a center seat in steerage. So, if you want to take your wife, GF, kids etc.....good luck!
Have you checked the fees for companion travel? F that! They are often only slightly less than buying a guaranteed seat. F that again!
Active employees at UNICAL ought to get a few bones tossed their way WRT travel. A handful of FC SP passes per year at the very least. Absent that, show me the money. I have stacks of attaboy / incentive passes (on time 14, etc.). They are worthless. Show me the money.
The pass privileges I enjoyed when at Express were far superior to the crap UAL doles out. And the ones at the previous cesspool were even better!
Fly safe, very very safe. And when it's getting really safe, slow down and look around, you probably forgot to do something even safer. "Safety first, at all times and in all things"....its in the FOM. Well, at least it was when I got hired.
FTP.
Last edited by oldmako; 12-15-2010 at 01:06 PM.
01-04-2011, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
Any word on how boarding priority for retirees will be established?
Sorry, woke up in a pretty sarcastic mood this morning since 70-seaters are flying out of our hubs.
01-04-2011, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by EWRflyr
Yep. Heard from a buddy whose girlfriend's brother's wife's cousin knows the owner of the janitorial company that services HQ and one of his employees told him that when she was reading the memos in the trash she thought it said something about retirees going after all other airline non-revs trying to get on. My buddy says this could be wrong because the janitor's first language is not English and she wasn't sure she read that right.
Sorry, woke up in a pretty sarcastic mood this morning since 70-seaters are flying out of our hubs.
Sorry, woke up in a pretty sarcastic mood this morning since 70-seaters are flying out of our hubs.
01-04-2011, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by EWRflyr
Yep. Heard from a buddy whose girlfriend's brother's wife's cousin knows the owner of the janitorial company that services HQ and one of his employees told him that when she was reading the memos in the trash she thought it said something about retirees going after all other airline non-revs trying to get on. My buddy says this could be wrong because the janitor's first language is not English and she wasn't sure she read that right.
Sorry, woke up in a pretty sarcastic mood this morning since 70-seaters are flying out of our hubs.
Sorry, woke up in a pretty sarcastic mood this morning since 70-seaters are flying out of our hubs.
01-04-2011, 07:56 PM
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Too bad ual/cal can't have a pass program like delta. First is the default, don't have to pay for it. DL emp can upgrade to S2 from S3 a few times a year. Overall it's a fair system. All us as express carriers go as S3C except on our own ac the status is reversed. S3C for mainline.
It's an easy system, and with travelnet it keeps agents honest with a means to look at seniority and priority as they clear nonrevs.
Jump on mainline is delta, DC, then OAL. But once it's 20 min till departure its fair game if no one listed.(if I remember right).
UAL may control the seats but SkyWest employees will never (unless space pos) go behind ual passrider or jumpseaters. There is a reason why ALL SkyWest flight releases have the Jumpseat priority list on the last page and many travel with them when we commute. Some UAL agents have been known to make up their own priority lists.
It's an easy system, and with travelnet it keeps agents honest with a means to look at seniority and priority as they clear nonrevs.
Jump on mainline is delta, DC, then OAL. But once it's 20 min till departure its fair game if no one listed.(if I remember right).
UAL may control the seats but SkyWest employees will never (unless space pos) go behind ual passrider or jumpseaters. There is a reason why ALL SkyWest flight releases have the Jumpseat priority list on the last page and many travel with them when we commute. Some UAL agents have been known to make up their own priority lists.
01-04-2011, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BHopper88
Too bad ual/cal can't have a pass program like delta. First is the default, don't have to pay for it. DL emp can upgrade to S2 from S3 a few times a year. Overall it's a fair system. All us as express carriers go as S3C except on our own ac the status is reversed. S3C for mainline.
It's an easy system, and with travelnet it keeps agents honest with a means to look at seniority and priority as they clear nonrevs.
Jump on mainline is delta, DC, then OAL. But once it's 20 min till departure its fair game if no one listed.(if I remember right).
UAL may control the seats but SkyWest employees will never (unless space pos) go behind ual passrider or jumpseaters. There is a reason why ALL SkyWest flight releases have the Jumpseat priority list on the last page and many travel with them when we commute. Some UAL agents have been known to make up their own priority lists.
It's an easy system, and with travelnet it keeps agents honest with a means to look at seniority and priority as they clear nonrevs.
Jump on mainline is delta, DC, then OAL. But once it's 20 min till departure its fair game if no one listed.(if I remember right).
UAL may control the seats but SkyWest employees will never (unless space pos) go behind ual passrider or jumpseaters. There is a reason why ALL SkyWest flight releases have the Jumpseat priority list on the last page and many travel with them when we commute. Some UAL agents have been known to make up their own priority lists.
I was ok with the previous UAL setup (only because I had BP-6B priority
) but I really despise the CO setup.
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