Then with the revelation that the UAX feeders are up against the maximum limit on block hours, I am curious if the recent XJT expansion in ORD is going to offset anything? Is this purely replacement of the flying MESA did or is this flying being taken over by XJT 50-seat jets so that the 70-seat jets can be moved into other parts of the system (i.e. EWR and IAH)? Just wondering if moving pieces around the system keeps them under the block cap. From what has been stated above by some, it sounds like they can't add any more UAX flights so all this flying has to be CO flying?

I am scratching my head because these 70-seat carriers are not Continental Express carriers because those are forbidden in our contract. The only thing the company could try to do would be to put the CO code on these flights in partnership with UAL since there cannot be a strictly CO 70-seat jet operation. That leaves them only as a UAL flight.

I hope I am making my questions and observations clear.

I remember how great our side was doing the last time....all the way to the TRO.:)

Everyone said the case presented by ALPA was solid and strong when United sued us. We now see where that lead us.

dup...................

I have yet to see the "scope buster" sticker and if any of our pilots are sporting them I 100% support anyone who denies them a ride.


got scope? Oval Sticker > got scope? : got scope?
I purchased a box of 50 and will be passing them around.

Basically, yes. So long as:

1-C-1-f Feeder Carrier Operation of Small Jets Larger
than 50 Seats
A Feeder Carrier may perform Feeder Flying operating
Small Jets with a certificated seating capacity in excess of
fifty (50) seats if it also provides job opportunities to
furloughed United Pilots in accordance with Letter of
Agreement 03-22.

Again, unbelievable, I know.

Frats,
Lee

Perfectly clear, IMO. I think the issues you stated are all being approached, but from my understanding, the arbitration is only to address the 70 issue as it applies to CAL scope and hubs.

Frats,
Lee

I'm sure it was flame bait. My initial post was to set the stage as to why such a sticker might not be received to well by mainline bubbas. Since no one has confirmed the existence of the sticker, I'm sure it was just someone throwing a hand-grenade.

Thanks for the link. My wife might look good in that thong...........

Frats,
Lee

It's both. When the deal was signed, the planes were to replace the Mesa flying that UAL was dumping. Hard to believe, UAL dumping a crappy operation for one that has better performance numbers. At least, when the deal was signed anyway. Cost wasn't an issue as CAL squeezed XJT so low that it didn't matter.

Although the planes are "heading to ORD", it's to fill the void of SkyWest planes going to the current CAL hubs. Flying is increasing out of IAD as well, and DEN is starts seeing XJT flying starting in January. Again, to fill the void of the 70 seaters leaving current UAL flying for the CAL flying.

Would much prefer the mainline had ALL regional flying...Pipe dream, but a guy has to have something to hang onto in this jacked up business! BTW, I REALLY hated to see the 737 go at UAL, especially given it's long history there...