Thanks. The good news is we have an outstanding grievance structure to benefit all of us. Regarding 2011, I think the fact that most agreed with decision not to take the money back from LCAL reveals the presense of unity going forward.

What are you talking about...lcal?
U mean the profit sharing they earned as well as lual?
What are you getting at here?
Your comment seems rather divisive

I think he was referring to the previous grievance where LCAL got profit sharing, and wasn't due in the contract. If I understand this award, that profit sharing, grievance we won, reduced the amount due to each LUAL employee. Therefore, since LCAL got sharing and shouldn't have, it effected the dollars to be awarded to the LUAL side. This award is to make up for that shortage which never should have been. :)

So when you say, "U mean the profit sharing they earned as well as lual?" That actually should not have happened.

The lcal pilots were entitled to profit sharing according to an agreement between management and the lcal mec for the sale of the 767-200s and the loss of income/revenue to the cal pilots accordingly.
I'm glad the lual pilots have their due diligence, but to re open old wounds doesn't help the healing process, can we move on please as now we are just ual pilots.

and lual pilots won THAT grievance, too. lcal was not entitled to the profit sharing, but the only remedy given by the neutral was for UCH to claw it back. This is a separate grievance. And nobody is reopening anything. It took this long for the grievance to be awarded.

It wasn't profit sharing is was compensation for the sale of the 767-200s.
legacy lines are still being drawn every day, I'm happy for you all and congrats on your upcoming award.
Now let's bury the legacy b.s. Because me3 is on the horizon along w NAI...

We didn't earn it. We were stupid enough to have a sunset on our profit sharing--and the sun had set. I sat there for years and watched my friends at DAL, UAL, AA rake in annual large checks that paid off mortgages while we at CAL got little to none. Then our union negotiated outside the TPA an agreement in which got short term pennies for a loss of possible long term dollars from having a unified group. What? We got $3000 or some such nonsense? Had we not done that I'm convinced we could have held together longer for a better contract. It was very devisive and still is I'm sure. This was just my take on it. Still is. Glad they won the grievance.

Eligibility
 

Does anyone know the eligibility rules for receiving profit sharing as it applies to separation date? If someone retires December 30th, or some other day before the end of the calendar year, is he entitled to profit sharing for that year? Does he have to be employed on the date it is paid? Short timers want to know.

Couldn't agree more. Sounds like Qatar is on the verge of another large order. If our future is fighting against heavily subsidized competition as our own Government shrugs shoulders, we won't be worrying about profit sharing checks. We will just be trying to survive.

Boeing Said Nearing $6.7 Billion Qatar Air Deal for 787, 777 - Bloomberg

No. The LCAL PS did not affect how much LUAL pilots or any other employee group received. LUAL pilots received their full PS that year--because they had it in their contract. The award is above and beyond and outside what they were awarded in their contract, equivalent to what the LCAL pilots got above and beyond and outside our own contract at that time.