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dexim 01-19-2012 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by gettinbumped (Post 1119371)
From what I have been told by people on the MEC, Wendy forbid our LEC committee from being in Washington at the DOJ, ala Delta. Obviously I cannot personally confirm this, but I do know she was asked whether it was true and didn't deny it. If you remember, the negotiations were going GANGBUSTERS RIGHT up until the day the DOJ approved the merger. The next day, the music didn't stop, it started playing backwards. IMHO, we had WAYYYYYY more leverage prior to DOJ approval than we did when Pierce signed off on the B767 Grievance. As to where Pierce was during the DOJ process.... dunno. Good question.

Seems to me like there is PLENTY of blame to go around with leadership on both sides of the union house. My response was to the suggestion that Wendy had us on some sort of perfect path that was derailed by Jay Pierce... which I find ridiculous.

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We agree!

NFLUALNFL 01-19-2012 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by dexim (Post 1119375)
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We agree!

Based on your past posting & grenades, the "Royal 'We'" is not something you should use. Unless you have more than one voice in there......

dexim 01-19-2012 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by NFLUALNFL (Post 1119428)
Based on your past posting & grenades, the "Royal 'We'" is not something you should use. Unless you have more than one voice in there......


If you are trying to pick a fight, I don't have time. See if somebody else would like to play!

EWRflyr 01-19-2012 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by dexim (Post 1118326)
Thanks - I'm surprised the company makes that database available for all to see - How about Phone# and addresses are they there?


dexim,

It is an internal company database. It is essentially an employee directory that shows name, department, photo, company e-mail address, work location/mail code and the contact phone number. In the case of the phone number, for pilots and flight attendants it is the number of their direct supervisor. There is no "personal" information in there to worry about that I can see. There is no access to my home phone number, my home address, my personal e-mail account, social security number or other pay or benefit information.

NFLUALNFL 01-19-2012 09:47 AM

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NFLUALNFL 01-19-2012 09:49 AM

Dex,
No, I'm not. I'm simply saying that with your unique personal opinions, you should not attempt to speak for anyone else

SoCalGuy 01-19-2012 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by EWRflyr (Post 1119450)
There is no "personal" information in there to worry about that I can see. There is no access to my home phone number, my home address, my personal e-mail account, social security number or other pay or benefit information.

The only "personal info" info outside the items mentioned above would have to be inserted manually by the employee them self. The ONLY item that the employee is able to self-enter would be their "Cell Phone Number". To date, I have seen VERY FEW (Pilot's) who opt to add this info. However, there is a field for a thing called a "pager", but the last time I saw anyone use one of those devices was decades ago when most likely Dex had a full head of hair:rolleyes:

As stated earlier.....There is NO PERSONAL information (outside of name, photo, BES, and supervisors contact) unless added by the employee them self by way of a Cell contact.

Another Conspiracy adverted.


Originally Posted by dexim (Post 1119373)
Were you a People Express type?

If you must know.....Negative, I was not a PE Type. I was hired years AFTER the 83-85 strike as a CAL Pilot.
Capeesh?

dexim 01-19-2012 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by EWRflyr (Post 1119450)
dexim,

It is an internal company database. It is essentially an employee directory that shows name, department, photo, company e-mail address, work location/mail code and the contact phone number. In the case of the phone number, for pilots and flight attendants it is the number of their direct supervisor. There is no "personal" information in there to worry about that I can see. There is no access to my home phone number, my home address, my personal e-mail account, social security number or other pay or benefit information.

That information was used to create a list of known scabs at CAL. What is the purpose of allowing access to other employees?

dexim 01-19-2012 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by SoCalGuy (Post 1119462)
The only "personal info" info outside the items mentioned above would have to be inserted manually by the employee them self. The ONLY item that the employee is able to self-enter would be their "Cell Phone Number". To date, I have seen VERY FEW (Pilot's) who opt to add this info. However, there is a field for a thing called a "pager", but the last time I saw anyone use one of those devices was decades ago when most likely Dex had a full head of hair:rolleyes:

As stated earlier.....There is NO PERSONAL information (outside of name, photo, BES, and supervisors contact) unless added by the employee them self by way of a Cell contact.

Another Conspiracy adverted.


If you must know.....Negative, I was not a PE Type. I was hired years AFTER the 83-85 strike as a CAL Pilot.
Capeesh?

Don't see a need for a open database like this if it doesn't serve a purpose.

So, the Capeesh are the good guys? See you are on the 757 - Plan on staying in EWR or moving down to IAH.

SoCalGuy 01-19-2012 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by dexim (Post 1119466)
Don't see a need for a open database like this if it doesn't serve a purpose.

So, the Capeesh are the good guys? See you are on the 757 - Plan on staying in EWR or moving down to IAH.

Depends on who talk to regarding the data base....
As it's available to EVERY L-CAL employee, anybody can look up anyone regarding their employee picture....No different than the photo on the front of your ID Badge. I've even heard of some pilots argue the fact that it serves as a second layer of "safety/security" in which to verify "someone" if there's doubt of who someone presents them self to be w/in the L-CAL system....Again NO personal into as mentioned earlier.

As far as base, how do you know I'm based in EWR to begin with??


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