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Originally Posted by dexim
(Post 1125195)
Yes, you are spot on - CAL people are getting more at the expense of the UAL people. They want all the benefits earned on the backs of others and at the same time they are not willing to standup for what's right.
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Originally Posted by gettinbumped
(Post 1125181)
I could be waaaayyyyy out in left field here, but I believe our profit sharing results were split out last year. UAL employees got paid on L-UAL's profits, and CAL employees got paid on L-CAL's profits. UAL did better financially than CAL did last year, so we got a higher percentage PS figure. This year, the financials are combined, so combining the two employee pools will dilute the results; ie, the NEW UAL didn't do as well financially as the L-UAL so the L-UAL employees get less. The NEW UAL did better than L-CAL so L-CAL will get more.
The financials weren't reported that way when they announced the PS percentage so you are just speculating. |
Originally Posted by LeeMat
(Post 1125203)
I have to ask, what is your motivation? because you are sounding more and more like a PAID "Internet Troll". Did UCH put you up to this, are you working for Fred Abbott and hid well oil machine working overtime to derail our efforts? If not then my apologies and I hope you get the big picture and get on board the unity train soon.
If you want to be **** buddies with these guys go ahead - I won't! The price is to high. |
Originally Posted by dexim
(Post 1125211)
Simply trying to get the CAL guys moving in a direction that benefits all. The CAL guys are more aligned with the company than the UAL guys. We tried to build a bridge and they started digging a tunnel. The CAL guys seem to think the actions of Pierce, over the past couple on month, are right and justified. You talk about unity - The high road didn't work.
If you want to be **** buddies with these guys go ahead - I won't! The price is to high. As L-UAL pilots you and I can not do anything about JP, the L- CAL pilots can...Lets all work together to help keep the rogue MEC members in check..If you are a United pilot then you know how much harm a rogue MC can cause ala Paul W. and the RJ side letter... |
Originally Posted by dexim
(Post 1125211)
Simply trying to get the CAL guys moving in a direction that benefits all.
The CAL guys are more aligned with the company than the UAL guys. We tried to build a bridge and they started digging a tunnel The CAL guys seem to think the actions of Pierce, over the past couple on month, are right and justified. You talk about unity - The high road didn't work. If you want to be **** buddies with these guys go ahead - I won't! The price is to high. |
Originally Posted by LeeMat
(Post 1125215)
I agree that JP did not act in unity. That being said your continue attacks on the CAL pilots as a group does the same harm to our unity efforts...There are many CAL pilot whom I have talked to that did not like the whole PS mess and how it all worked out....I said this bofore and I will say it again. I am glad that the CAL pilots got their much deserve share of the PS, but not how it was obtained via an individual side deal....
As L-UAL pilots you and I can not do anything about JP, the L- CAL pilots can...Lets all work together to help keep the rogue MEC members in check..If you are a United pilot then you know how much harm a rogue MC can cause ala Paul W. and the RJ side letter... If the profit was the same as the year before then it should have been 5.9% again but it wasn't. It was actually more It is now 5%. That is a reduction. That's ok though because I am 20 minutes away from burning a sizable part of my PS check out the tailpipe. |
Originally Posted by Blockoutblockin
(Post 1125219)
Capt. Pierce did an excellent job. Sorry you are having difficulty understanding all the nuances in determining the best course of action but it really doesn't matter what you think anyway. Quite frankly we are not interested in your perceived high road. We are accustomed to a higher road and look forward to seeing you on it.
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Originally Posted by LeeMat
(Post 1125215)
I agree that JP did not act in unity. That being said your continue attacks on the CAL pilots as a group does the same harm to our unity efforts...There are many CAL pilot whom I have talked to that did not like the whole PS mess and how it all worked out....I said this bofore and I will say it again. I am glad that the CAL pilots got their much deserve share of the PS, but not how it was obtained via an individual side deal....
As L-UAL pilots you and I can not do anything about JP, the L- CAL pilots can...Lets all work together to help keep the rogue MEC members in check..If you are a United pilot then you know how much harm a rogue MC can cause ala Paul W. and the RJ side letter... |
Originally Posted by A320
(Post 1125224)
You didn't like the way it turned out? Please.......
If the profit was the same as the year before then it should have been 5.9% again but it wasn't. It was actually more It is now 5%. That is a reduction. That's ok though because I am 20 minutes away from burning my a sizable part of my PS check out the tailpipe. |
Originally Posted by LeeMat
(Post 1125230)
I have asked about the 5% vs 5.9% and was told that our share (pilots), will be higher than the others just like last year...We will soon find out....My strike fund will be a bit larger regardless...
You asked who, your magic 8 Ball? When someone says it "Should be" means it won't be. For the record all eligible LUAL employees last year received the same percentage with the exception being Jeff and the boys. |
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