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beeker 01-30-2012 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by A320 (Post 1125784)
You seem to be confused. They are not OUR 70 seaters. I wish they were because our pilots would be flying them.

You seem to be confused. They are your 70 seaters. You just chose to out source them to the general practitioners because the brain surgeons thought they were too small.

uaav8r 01-30-2012 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by beeker (Post 1125950)
You seem to be confused. They are your 70 seaters. You just chose to out source them to the general practitioners because the brain surgeons thought they were too small.

I guess the 74 seat Q400's on your side are being flown by Nurse Colgan?:p

Ottopilot 01-30-2012 01:42 PM

CAL scope is:
50 seats < Jets
79 seats < Turboprops

What is UAL's?

uaav8r 01-30-2012 02:00 PM

Well Otto, it sucks. Your scope is the envy of the piloting profession, alright? With any luck, OUR airline will have 100 seat jets for you and I to fly. No, I will not "pull your gear".

uaav8r 01-30-2012 02:03 PM

Not sure what "Pay Band" we'll put the little bugger in though.

APC225 01-30-2012 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by LeeMat (Post 1125873)
For now what you can expect is that on February 14, 2012, Jeffrey will hold a photo op with some scab or management pilot in uniform holding bags of money, with Jeffrey’s arm around him telling the world: “See what a wonderful company we are to work for! I am a great CEO that loves his employees! I am the benevolent dictator!” Smile, smile, flash, flash….”now get back to work before I fire you all!”

And THAT's what the company paid $45M PS for, not to settle a possible $180K fine.

intrepidcv11 01-30-2012 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by A320 (Post 1125813)
The perception is that there is the attitude from many on your side who think you are holding and are entitled to all the cards in this merger and that you would like us to sit back and have a hot cup of Shut The Hell Up. After the last 10 years I don't think that is likely to happen.

Perception vs reality. There are hotheads on both sides who seem to think 'they hold the cards' and that the other side is 'out to screw us'. Both are tiny voices. Unfortunaly amongst the majority there are idiots who assume the hotheads are on to something. Congrats for being a member of that group with your 'perception'.

Ottopilot 01-30-2012 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by uaav8r (Post 1126028)
Well Otto, it sucks. Your scope is the envy of the piloting profession, alright? With any luck, OUR airline will have 100 seat jets for you and I to fly. No, I will not "pull your gear".

Relax. You are way too uptight. I asked a simple question. I still don't know the answer.

dexim 01-30-2012 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1126034)
And THAT's what the company paid $45M PS for, not to settle a possible $180K fine.

Why didn't your guys see that and say NO. It helped cement the division of the 2 groups and in some cases created a division that hadn't been there before.

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY!

Regularguy 01-30-2012 04:17 PM

Dexim:

I'm a UAL pilot but and I want you to know you are losing all of us with your continued harping about the PS and JP. What's done is done and I, like many others, have spent my PS so let's just rejoice that the LCAL guys and gals got theirs.

Now as far as those who keep poking at scope. As far as I know the two Jays are well aware of the issues and I expect that any contract handed to us for ratification will include an acceptable scope clause. If it isn't vote no.

Finally:

I don't see either side having any advantage over the other. The only difficulty is the seniority. LCAL has relatively many more "less senior" pilots flying Capt and WB FOs and it is the way it is. There will be pain in the integration no two ways about it or around it.

What I am really glad bout is the uniform will be blue. Why? It doesn't show cat and dog hairs as easily as black.


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