CBS "This Morning" Interview
05-16-2012, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Kalamazoo
WOW! Do you know anything about who Sullenberger is? 
Reading is fundamental...
Chesley B. Sullenberger III - TIME
Reading is fundamental...
Chesley B. Sullenberger III - TIME
The Crash of United Flight 232 by Capt. Al Haynes
Capt Al Haynes.
Lots of speculation as to whether or not one of the two was still developing thrust before it baecame water logged.
05-16-2012, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TheManager
Before you go overboard on the hero worship, may I present perhaps a more ligitimate hero:
The Crash of United Flight 232 by Capt. Al Haynes
Capt Al Haynes.
Lots of speculation as to whether or not one of the two was still developing thrust before it baecame water logged.
The Crash of United Flight 232 by Capt. Al Haynes
Capt Al Haynes.
Lots of speculation as to whether or not one of the two was still developing thrust before it baecame water logged.
(BTW - If you want to speak about Sioux City/Capt Haynes, put Capt. Denny Finch in that boat as well - RIP)
05-16-2012, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Kalamazoo
WOW! Do you know anything about who Sullenberger is?
Reading is fundamental...
Chesley B. Sullenberger III - TIME
Reading is fundamental...
Chesley B. Sullenberger III - TIME
05-16-2012, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by TheManager
Before you go overboard on the hero worship, may I present perhaps a more ligitimate hero:
The Crash of United Flight 232 by Capt. Al Haynes
Capt Al Haynes.
Lots of speculation as to whether or not one of the two was still developing thrust before it baecame water logged.
The Crash of United Flight 232 by Capt. Al Haynes
Capt Al Haynes.
Lots of speculation as to whether or not one of the two was still developing thrust before it baecame water logged.
Back on topic, I do enjoy hearing Sully speak and give his insight, not sure how anyone can watch him and not see that he is very knowledgeable in the topics he engages in. I was, however disappointed when the conversation turned to the regionals and they failed to elaborate on the contractual obstacles and management intimidation.
05-16-2012, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jumpseat2024
How'd they even get to talking about regionals? Sounds like Capt. God's Gift to aviation has a personal vendetta against them..to group all regionals together as being unsafe is about as fair as grouping all major pilots together because of a few bad apples..which I know they're out there
Jumpseat,
They were on the subject of outsourcing because it was one of the main topics the UAL pilots brought up in the informational leaflets, and press releases.
United and other legacy carriers have outsourced domestic flying to regionals, and that practice has impacted public safety, and customer service.
As for Sully; A true professional on the ground and in the air.
SP
05-16-2012, 10:42 AM
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Let's not get side tracked here. This has nothing to do with Haynes vs. Sullenberger. The story is UCH management vs. DAL management's credibility.
RETRO PAY and industry standard for ALL aspects of pilot employment (not just hourly pay rates) NOW.
If that's not where UCH management see's it's pilots, prepare for a bit of a scuffle.
Reading the history, I doubt they will be able to tender an offer that gets a "yes" vote from this tired, entrenched and angry aviator.
RETRO PAY and industry standard for ALL aspects of pilot employment (not just hourly pay rates) NOW.
If that's not where UCH management see's it's pilots, prepare for a bit of a scuffle.
Reading the history, I doubt they will be able to tender an offer that gets a "yes" vote from this tired, entrenched and angry aviator.
05-16-2012, 10:51 AM
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Just one old, retiring (me) guy's opinion but....
if DAL ratifies, they are the competition and that (plus or minus a few here and there) will be your approximate contract.
No skin in the game anymore, so go easy on the old guy.
if DAL ratifies, they are the competition and that (plus or minus a few here and there) will be your approximate contract.
No skin in the game anymore, so go easy on the old guy.
05-16-2012, 10:58 AM
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One thing is for sure, the two airline's comparative sizes mean that there's no way one can have a huge cost disadvantage over the other, nor will labor settle for a huge disparity in compensation.
The "devil" as they say will certainly be in the "details". PBS rules, training pay, scheduling, reimbursement for pilot costs... need I re-mention RETRO PAY?
The "devil" as they say will certainly be in the "details". PBS rules, training pay, scheduling, reimbursement for pilot costs... need I re-mention RETRO PAY?
05-16-2012, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jumpseat2024
How'd they even get to talking about regionals? Sounds like Capt. God's Gift to aviation has a personal vendetta against them..to group all regionals together as being unsafe is about as fair as grouping all major pilots together because of a few bad apples..which I know they're out there
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