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Old 06-15-2012, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by EDC757 View Post
This is the kind of talk that will bankrupt the union and have to make give-backs in the contract because of the loss of leverage. Shut the Front Door Up

Grow a pair EDC. It's waaayyyy past time to strike.
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Old 06-15-2012, 07:28 PM
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The tone of those two updates is strikingly different.
Yeah........

is one of these guys a union rep for the charmin toilet paper company or something? Why the soft, cozy, and comforatable aproach. The other letter was written by the guy who represents the Louisina Alligator Hunters Associaiton.

I want the guy that say "shoot 'em" writing my letters to the NMB. Screw that toilet paper rep, lets send that guy back to the line.
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Old 06-15-2012, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ottolillienthal View Post
Yeah........

is one of these guys a union rep for the charmin toilet paper company or something? Why the soft, cozy, and comforatable aproach. The other letter was written by the guy who represents the Louisina Alligator Hunters Associaiton.

I want the guy that say "shoot 'em" writing my letters to the NMB. Screw that toilet paper rep, lets send that guy back to the line.
I fully agree. I was pretty sure the toilet paper guy was cheerfully confident we would have a deal by June 15th, so therefore no need for the Heppner approach. I don't know why it is SOOOO clear to the rest of us, but the toilet paper guy keeps pulling on the roll....

At any rate, looking forward to standing shoulder to shoulder with ALL my fellow pilots when the NMB has finally had enough of co-worker Jeff's LIES.
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"While we did not reach an agreement in principle (AIP) for the JCBA on June 15, it does not mean we were defeated in our goal of reaching a deal in an expeditious fashion. Like a game that is not yet decided at the final buzzer, we are now heading into overtime."

Overtime? Jay, your kidding right? I suppose the past 3.5 years was "regular play"?

LOOK PEOPLE, there is not even an Agreement In Principle from your employer. They are saying "GO POUND SAND, WE DON"T RECOGNIZE YOU AS A PROFESSIONAL AND WE DO NOT VALUE YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS ORGANIZATION ENOUGH TO TAKE YOUR REQUESTS FOR A NEW CBA SERIOUSLY. WE WILL GET TO YOU......NEVER."

JAY. GET US RELEASED.
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Old 06-16-2012, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Bligh View Post
"While we did not reach an agreement in principle (AIP) for the JCBA on June 15, it does not mean we were defeated in our goal of reaching a deal in an expeditious fashion. Like a game that is not yet decided at the final buzzer, we are now heading into overtime."

Overtime? Jay, your kidding right? I suppose the past 3.5 years was "regular play"?

LOOK PEOPLE, there is not even an Agreement In Principle from your employer. They are saying "GO POUND SAND, WE DON"T RECOGNIZE YOU AS A PROFESSIONAL AND WE DO NOT VALUE YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS ORGANIZATION ENOUGH TO TAKE YOUR REQUESTS FOR A NEW CBA SERIOUSLY. WE WILL GET TO YOU......NEVER."

JAY. GET US RELEASED.

I'LL bet Jay Pos can taste that nice new office chair next to Freddie Abbott!
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Old 06-16-2012, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Bligh View Post
JAY. GET US RELEASED.
The only way to get it done.
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Scope and pay are the two hardest sections to negotiate. The other sections are a cake walk. If those two sections are open, you are no closer to an agreement than you were when the merger was announced.
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Old 06-16-2012, 07:04 AM
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I think you will be waiting 6 months or 8 years and 6 months for a release.

6 month wait:

B.O. gets elected to a second term...
If you think a barely hanging on 1 term Dem and a Senate that is a sliver away from losing its majority is going to let a bunch of pilots put 70,000+ other people out of work with a strike less than 6 months before the election you are probably smoking some good stuff. The company would probably settle at the last minute before midnight on day 30, but the current politicians can't risk it.

8 years and 6 months: What happens if MR wins the presidency.... A Rep. Pres. in his first term isn't going to release you. The next four years is to hope that MR doesn't get reelected and you get a Dem in the WH who makes it to a second term and will not be at risk for losing re-election..... At that point you might be able to get a release.

The politicians control this process, and unless they feel that their re-election prospects are safe, we will not get what we want. The RLA has screwed the employees.
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Old 06-16-2012, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkeyfly View Post
Agreed. Time to step up and do the right thing NMB.
+++ 1 +++
Let's get that 30 Day Cooling Off rolling Ms. Puchala.
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Old 06-16-2012, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by EDC757 View Post
This is the kind of talk that will bankrupt the union and have to make give-backs in the contract because of the loss of leverage. Shut the Front Door Up
I am talking about a legal withdrawal of services as provided by the RLA.

Did you think I meant a wildcat strike where we all just walk off the job???
You can't be that obtuse.....

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