76drvr

Do you really want a national union dictating your contract priorities and strategies to you, or would you rather have your own negotiating committee, as directed by your own MEC, do that?

I never saw a scope section signed by ALPA that wasn't first ratified by the pilot group for which it was negotiated, by the negotiating committee elected by the pilot groups MEC. So stop tilting at windmills and blaming ALPA.

ALPA national is a resource, but its up to each pilot group to determine how they choose to use it.

SoCentralRain

Speaking of which, where the hell is my update from Heppner? All I got last night was some stupid, redundant pap about nothing.
Where's the UAL ALPA side of the story, Jay? ::ticked again, as usual::

SCR

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shiznit

There, fixed it for you.

skippy

At least cal put one out. Uals didnt relly even mention the nmb meetings
We suck. Standby to standby....

jdt30

I'm not sure CAL's MEC did anything other than change the date on the letterhead. It seemed to read like every update that I've read for the last 3 years.

boxer6

( My apologies..posting with the phone and it doesn't seem to allow me to break up this post in paragraphs) Fine points of the contract should be each NC's perogative. However, the fact that two major legacy ALPA contracts were opened and being negotiaed was THE perfect opportunity to simultaniously bring forward to both mgmts a common scope plan that reigns in both the RJs but JV's as well. What mgmt fears most is not a specific scope clause per se but a scope clause that puts them at a relative competitive disadvantage. Granted, AA is the wild card , but ALPA NATL should have AT LEAST broached this subject with the 3 MEC'S of both airlines to maximize leverage on this issue. The very issue that has killed this profession in so many ways the last 10-15 years.IMHO, and they FAILED to capitalize on this opportunity. One could make the argument that its representation of RJ pilot groups legally prevented this from happening. That being said, and however unlikely, I suppose there was nothing stopping the aforementioned MEC'S from getting together on their own volition. At the end of the day it was a valuable opportunity that was wasted.

APC225

And therein is the problem. While it may have killed OUR profession, it didn't kill ALPA-N's profession. In fact their representation has skyrocketed under the outsourced model. Of the "over 53,000" that ALPA currently represents, 23,879 are not in legacy airlines. ALPA-N's job security and compensation is up.

Alpa > About ALPA > Who We Are > Pilot Groups

socalflyboy

It's like having ONE divorce attorney for BOTH people...just doesn't work.

EWR73FO

It does for the attorney and for apla. Has ANY employee of alpa national from the lowest desk jockey to the alpa president ever taken a cut in wages, benefits, or retirement since 9/11?