krudawg

I thinks it's best not to confuse "ewrbasedpilot" with facts. He's gonna screw himself into the ceiling. Once he get's done spewing out liberal talking points, maybe we can get back to the original thread.

ewrbasedpilot

I have all the "facts" I need and am not one bit confused. Keep voting against your job....I hope you get your wish and lose it or maybe you'll get even luckier and Romney can outsource it for you...............

ewrbasedpilot

Yep...........with the airline union ASKING for his intervention.

El10

I completely disagree with that statement. If you look at the facts one party has made unions less affective at every opportunity. Fact is if you look at union membership it has declined at the same rate as union effectiveness (industrial action). Unfortunately also if you look at the fact that union membership has declined at the same exact rate as the income growth of the middle class. Those are facts and not left or right talking points.

I believe it was a former republican presidential candidate that had the position that airline contacts should be done via baseball style arbitration. Is that path going to lead to better scope and working conditions? Again if you don't like the process you need to look at who you put in place that can make the changes be it as LEC rep or your state senators.

krudawg

I have heard that before, but I have never been able to confirm that. So
I'm going to have to check with my sources at AMR if that was the case. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the concept that any union would ASK a president to order them back to work. Does that imply that APA was worried their pilots weren't prepared financially for a strike and they were worried about holding a strong picket line. Maybe you can enlighten the "great unwashed".

By the way, since you know so much information about what's good for the airline industry; can you remind me under whose watch the Airline Deregulation Bill was signed...because there are a lot of experts that say that that bill was largely responsible for the explosive growth of start-up airlines with NON-UNION Employees which put downward (that's economists speak)on OUR wages.

MXDUDE

If you are in the middle class you have no representation in Washington. That being said why would I vote for a party that has utter contempt for labor? Flame away, but please don't use that FREEDOM loving BS.

krudawg

That sir is one of the most outrageous statements I have ever heard. Next thing your going to say is that the rich aren't paying their fair share.

MXDUDE

Did you go to work for Frank in '83 or '84? Will you be the first to cross the line if the pilots at UCH are allowed to strike? Are you a trust fund baby who thought it would be cool to be a pilot? You live in some fantasy world if you can't agree that there has been an attack on labor the last 30 years. And yes, both Dem's and Rep's are responsible for it.

krudawg

Nope. Blue Collar, Single-Parent raised. Had no money for college so I joined the Marines right out of High School. I didn't go to college until AFTER I came home from Vietnam. No fantesy island or trust fund baby - just the school of hard knocks. I worked my way thru college doing every kind of crappy job and was happy to have the work. Guessing in advance who will or who won't cross a picket line is a fools errand. It's like combat, you won't know who the brave are until that first round comes wizzing or your head. Spare me with your idealistic liberal views and opinions of people you know nothing about.

gettinbumped

Social issues aside. Ask yourself this one question. Who do you think management wants to win the election?