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09-12-2012 | 12:35 PM

#21

ualratt

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Originally Posted by uaav8r

I thought you guys had some kind of grievance or something in regard to the parking of the 767-200's. What happened with that?

Most already spent it, or are you referring to 2012 bonus plan?

09-12-2012 | 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ottopilot

200 "new" captain positions? Or is it the same 200 positions we lost due to age 65? I upgraded in 2007 and now I hold captain again. Thanks UAL, what would I do without you?

Awesome! I upgraded in 2007, too. I sure would like to get in on some bids as well.

Sled

09-12-2012 | 02:31 PM

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jaykris

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From: 767 Capt

Not happy??? And just WHAT are you doing about it??

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09-12-2012 | 03:27 PM

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SONORA PASS

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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr

we've all seen this play before.

Imho, uch is lobbying a yes (50% plus one) vote for the aip/ta/jcba by using fear, uncertainty, and doubt. It's not a coincidence that we find ourselves backed up against the nasty tpa expiration sections on the anticipated timeline for membership ratification.

And if the aip/ta/jcba is voted down that also works for uch since the flying ratio and other key sections of the tpa will no longer be a factor.

It's all straight out of the playbook.

Grab your copy today:

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Originally Posted by uaav8r

it's obvious....

Uch plan a: Scare lual pilots into yes vote over fear of tpa expirations.
Uch plan b: Take advantage of expired tpa sections and further shrink lual.

...what cadetdrivr said.

^^^ this is spot on ^^^

09-12-2012 | 09:03 PM

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thor2j

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Originally Posted by Coto Pilot

What 76 flying has been lost, I think that 2 767-200's were retired (which supposedly is why the CAL pilots got a bonus), the rest is still there, it has just been moved to Newark.

And 757Driver, I took the job so I could vote no on a contract. I would never have gone to CAL otherwise.

Zrh,GVA,BRU,soon MXP, And more

09-12-2012 | 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Coto Pilot

Not really an accurate statement. Over 200 new captain positions and guys flooding to new bases to elimiate commutes. There are many very happy guys right now.

And that's all because of CAL ALPA's covert plan to delay the JCBA.

Buddy when it comes to the two pilot groups you are about as rational as Rev Terry Jones.

09-13-2012 | 04:37 AM

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jsled

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Originally Posted by intrepidcv11

And that's all because of CAL ALPA's covert plan to delay the JCBA.

Buddy when it comes to the two pilot groups you are about as rational as Rev Terry Jones.

I don't think there was a covert plan. I just believe that J.P. was in no hurry to get a JCBA. Why? CAL had all the orders in the short term. UAL's orders are for 2015-2016 timeframe. Since we are not doing the list until after the JCBA, why not delay and soak up all the new aircraft vacancies? As long as it's all settled by 2015, CAL guys can get in on the UAL order bids as well. It appeared to me that he was dragged into the J.H. push for release scheme. I'm just saying.

Sled

Last edited by jsled; 09-13-2012 at 04:51 AM.

09-13-2012 | 03:53 PM

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Airhoss

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From: Sleeping in the black swan’s nest.

GENTLEMEN! Once again this isn't about UAL pilots vs CAL pilots. This an informational post about whats happening on our side of the fence. Because as far as I am aware Fred nJeff are not keeping you adreast of the way they are treating us. Or have they? I doubt those boys are letting you know that they are abusing the he11 out of the UAL side at the moment have they? Now you know for what its worth.

Please excuse the spelling and grammar I am writing this on my phone.