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SONORA PASS 09-21-2012 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by SNA320 (Post 1264519)
A MORE DETAILED VERSION OF THIS ANNOUNCEMENT IS AVAILABLE ON FLYINGTOGETHER; CLICK ON FLIGHT OPERATIONS UNDER DEPARTMENTS AND LOOK FOR THE EASY LINKS BOX (RIGHT SIDE OF PAGE). A Q&A *
DOCUMENT ABOUT THIS HIRING EFFORT IS ALSO INCLUDED. *

So of course, I followed their instructions to the link and there is none! Anyone able to find it? Got some buds who despite my best efforts, still want to make a career here.

Thanks,

SNA320

SNA,

Here it is... it was posted on the CAL side of SKYNET.

SP


Questions and Answers

Is United planning to hire in 2012 and 2013?
Yes. Until a joint collective bargaining agreement (JCBA) and an integrated seniority list (ISL) are implemented, legacy Continental Airlines (L-CAL) has a need for additional pilots. Class starts as early as November of 2012 are presently available.

Does United still have pilots on furlough?
Yes. Legacy United Airlines (L-UAL) has not yet recalled any pilots who were furloughed in 2008. All pilots on this list have been offered class dates at L-CAL, however. It was their option to accept the position, and it remains their option to rejoin the hiring process at any time they wish.

Whose contract and seniority list would I fall on?
All pilots hired before the JCBA and ISL are implemented would work under the terms of the L-CAL collective bargaining agreement and would be placed on the L-CAL seniority list.

What aircraft and bases can new hires expect?
We are filling vacancies on the 737 in Newark, Houston, Cleveland and Guam. We also are filling vacancies on the 757/767 fleet in Newark and Houston.

Could a new hire get assigned to Guam?
Yes. Our Pacific operation is a critical element of our global network. Pilots staffed in Guam have a unique opportunity to fly throughout Micronesia and Asia. This is a 737 base only and could be assigned to any class.

I was hired by United or Continental in 2008, but never started class. Am I still eligible?
Yes. Pilots who received employment offers have been identified and will be contacted first for consideration with the new United Airlines.

I had an interview scheduled with United or Continental in 2008 that cancelled. Am I still eligible?
Pilots in this situation will be considered for processing based on the competitiveness of their qualifications by comparison to other applicants.

Where do I apply for a position at United?
We will be using AirlineApps.com going forward. Pilots who previously applied to United Airlines will need to reapply through AirlineApps.com.

I have a Continental application already on file with AirlineApps.com. Do I need to reapply?
No. We are updating portions of the application, and will communicate with you directly if you need to update a portion of your application.

What will the hiring process look like for the new United?

We will be combining best practices from both legacy airlines in our new process. Qualified applicants will be invited to take an online assessment first. Competitive applicants will then participate in a brief telephone screening. Applicants who continue to meet the desired criteria will then be invited to participate in a simulator evaluation and a panel interview at one of our training centers located in Denver or Houston.

What is the timeframe for hiring at United?
We will begin reviewing applications next week, and selecting candidates for interviews in the coming months to fill positions in 2012 and 2013.

How much hiring are you planning to do?
Our total numbers are dependent first on the decisions of the currently furloughed United pilots. They will always be given first preference for any class offering. Remaining positions will be filled by new-hire pilots from outside the company. As this number is unknown, we cannot project with certainty the total number of new hires. We are planning to fill 230 positions from January to May of 2013.

How will my seniority work if I am hired?
A pilot hired from outside of the company will be placed on the L-CAL seniority list junior to any furloughed United pilot who accepts a class date regardless of when that furloughed United pilot comes to training.

What do retirements look like at United?
United will retire almost 4,000 pilots in the next 10 years, and by 2026 will retire 50% of those currently on the seniority lists.

What are minimum qualifications?
Minimum qualifications are being evaluated and will be posted on AirlineApps.com when they are finalized. Our most competitive candidates will have a combination of experience and qualifications that best fits the needs of the world’s leading airline.

Why should I consider United Airlines?
United is the world’s leading airline and is focused on being the airline customers want to fly, the airline employees want to work for and the airline shareholders want to invest in. Highlights of United Airlines include:
 World’s most comprehensive global route network, including world-class international gateways to Asia and Australia, Europe, Latin America, Africa and the Middle East with non-stop or one-stop service from virtually anywhere in the United States
 A modern fleet which is the most fuel efficient (when adjusted for cabin size), and the best current aircraft order book among U.S. network carriers
 Industry-leading loyalty program that provides more opportunities to earn and redeem miles worldwide
 Optimal hub locations in 10 cities, including hubs in the four largest cities in the United States
 Rated the world’s most admired airline on FORTUNE magazine’s 2012 airline-industry list of the World’s Most Admired Companies

SNA320 09-21-2012 03:28 PM

Thanks for help with the link and posting the actual documents guys!

-SNA320

Airhoss 09-21-2012 04:08 PM


We also are filling vacancies on the 757/767 fleet in Newark and Houston.
And meanwhile back at the ranch I AM SITTING 5 FROM THE BOTTOM ON THE RIGHT SEAT OF THE 756 IN DEN with FIFTEEN YEARS SENIORITY!!!! at L-ual!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad::mad:

M'Fers!!!!

Jeffy's a gonna pay for this blatant and horrendous inequity!! The fury he is creating is beyond the understanding of those who aren't having this dumped on their heads I guess!

So a NEW HIRE is going to be relatively senior to me on the right seat of the 756 if he has 6 or more dudes under him THINK ABOUT THAT for just minute!!!

EWR73FO 09-21-2012 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1264545)
And meanwhile back at the ranch I AM SITTING 5 FROM THE BOTTOM ON THE RIGHT SEAT OF THE 756 IN DEN with FIFTEEN YEARS SENIORITY!!!! at L-ual!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad::mad:

M'Fers!!!!

Jeffy's a gonna pay for this blatant and horrendous inequity!! The fury he is creating is beyond the understanding of those who aren't having this dumped on their heads I guess!

So a NEW HIRE is going to be relatively senior to me on the right seat of the 756 if he has 6 or more dudes under him THINK ABOUT THAT for just minute!!!


No they won't. They will be under the last pilot on the seniority list, starting number 12506.

skippy 09-21-2012 05:11 PM

He meant relative to bidding in a junior domicile...ie the junior guy could get a line before my boy airhoss does. Sucks homie

Airhoss 09-21-2012 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by EWR73FO (Post 1264553)
No they won't. They will be under the last pilot on the seniority list, starting number 12506.

I shouldn't have to esplain this to you.....


He meant relative to bidding in a junior domicile...ie the junior guy could get a line before my boy airhoss does. Sucks homie
THIS ^^^^^^^^^And it's about as insulting a thing as can be done to a pilot group. I just Wish you guys over on the CAL side would open your eyes and see it!!

Rhino12 09-21-2012 06:40 PM

31K a year, sitting reserve at EWR, with furloughed UAL guys...sounds like a dream job. Good luck.

EWR73FO 09-21-2012 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1264596)
I shouldn't have to esplain this to you.....



THIS ^^^^^^^^^And it's about as insulting a thing as can be done to a pilot group. I just Wish you guys over on the CAL side would open your eyes and see it!!


Yeah you do, I'm slow. You're mad a new hire could be, gasp, close to you? What, do they all smell?

Relax. We do get it. It's entirely possible that LCAL will hire in the next bid as well and have new hires going to the right seat of the 777. Do you have the same sentiment and attitude towards a furloughed LUAL pilot at LCAL? There are furloughed LUAL pilots at LCAL that currently have the same relative seniority as you do on the 756 in EWR and IAH.

Point is, we are the choices we make. You and I look back in 20 years and then and only then do we gauge who made the better choice, if you into the keeping score thing.

SOTeric 09-21-2012 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by EWR73FO (Post 1264621)
Yeah you do, I'm slow. You're mad a new hire could be, gasp, close to you? What, do they all smell?

Relax. We do get it. It's entirely possible that LCAL will hire in the next bid as well and have new hires going to the right seat of the 777. Do you have the same sentiment and attitude towards a furloughed LUAL pilot at LCAL? There are furloughed LUAL pilots at LCAL that currently have the same relative seniority as you do on the 756 in EWR and IAH.

Point is, we are the choices we make. You and I look back in 20 years and then and only then do we gauge who made the better choice, if you into the keeping score thing.

No, you don't get it. Pull your head out and see what hes trying to say. If the shoe was on the other foot yall would be screaming like stuck pigs.

And to try to rub his nose in the steaming pile of BS that new hires will go to the 777 only shows what a moron you really are.

Hoss, let's chill until the ISL. Ignore the tool bags.

jumppilot 09-21-2012 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by SOTeric (Post 1264661)

And to try to rub his nose in the steaming pile of BS that new hires will go to the 777 only shows what a moron you really are.


That's not BS. In 2005, 2006 and early 2007 new hires at CAL were indeed assigned the 777.


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