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workingforfree 12-03-2012 12:01 PM

Back on topic :)

- Any details on the new process?

- When are they going to be interviewing off the street?

- Anything else also appreciated.

EWRflyr 12-05-2012 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by workingforfree (Post 1304200)
I keep all my sim time out of the lob book too.

There are those who log sim time and those who don't. Personally, I log all my sim time, even now at the airline. I do it mainly because I believe the FARs require logging of sim time under FAR 61.51. A pilot must be able to show training, qualifications and currency for the ratings, licenses that he/she holds. It does say that each pilot must do this in a method that is acceptable to the administrator in part (a) but then goes on to explain in part (b) the required information in logbook entries to comply with part (a). This information includes not only flight but time in, type and location of a flight simulator or training device.

For me, being type rated in different aircraft, I have logged the initial training for each type as well as my recurrent annual simulator training. Based on my interpretation of the FAR, this shows that (a) I became qualified through the appropriate training and (b) I stay qualified through the required annual airline simulator check-ride process.

Just my opinion though.

Dpilot 12-05-2012 07:38 PM

I log sim time in my logbook too, however, the important distinction here is that it is only sim time, so it is not logged under the total flight time. It's only logged in a separate column under simulator time.

Shrek 12-05-2012 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by workingforfree (Post 1304256)
Back on topic :)

- Any details on the new process?

- When are they going to be interviewing off the street?

- Anything else also appreciated.

Gotta wait on the TA vote results. DEC 16th.

If it is defeated..........hiring off the street post haste.
If the TA becomes our JCBA........who knows.

kc135rflyr 12-05-2012 07:47 PM

Some info for the hopeful
 
FWIW, I bumped in to CV a week ago and this is what was passed to me from him: nothing is happening until the JCBA is voted in, (I mean on but we all know it will be voted in). That said, at that time the “guess” is that it will take 6 months to SLI. The other “guess” is that based on past %age (50% of 1400 total accepting a recall for the better rates and approx 500 already accepting), this would leave another 200 saying “yes I’ll come back.” At 50/month that takes us Feb, Mar, Apr, May (classes already booked thru Jan)…and you’re now at SLI. Then no longer job offer to CAL b/c CAL no longer exists so begins the true recall…which will take a few months to go thru all the holdouts/mil defer…so if it’s true 200 say “yes, I’ll come back,” then there will be little to no “off the street hiring.” HOWEVER, I truly don’t believe very many more are going to come back to the “job offer” let alone recall as many have been beat up enough in this industry…maybe 100 more but I still doubt that as well. I think with the “hey update your stuff” email, things have changed in a week and I think you’ll be hearing from them soon. If you are the lucking first few…please pass on all gouge to those behind you b/c this is gonna be a brand new program. Good luck!

IADBLRJ41 12-05-2012 08:19 PM

Thanks KC135

teedog 12-06-2012 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by EWRflyr (Post 1305397)
There are those who log sim time and those who don't. Personally, I log all my sim time, even now at the airline. I do it mainly because I believe the FARs require logging of sim time under FAR 61.51. A pilot must be able to show training, qualifications and currency for the ratings, licenses that he/she holds. It does say that each pilot must do this in a method that is acceptable to the administrator in part (a) but then goes on to explain in part (b) the required information in logbook entries to comply with part (a). This information includes not only flight but time in, type and location of a flight simulator or training device.

For me, being type rated in different aircraft, I have logged the initial training for each type as well as my recurrent annual simulator training. Based on my interpretation of the FAR, this shows that (a) I became qualified through the appropriate training and (b) I stay qualified through the required annual airline simulator check-ride process.

Just my opinion though.

EWRflyr

Understand it you want to log it but if you work for an airline it is not necessary. Under part 121 the airline is required to maintain all training records and keep all flight time and qualification training. Now if you work for part 135 I completely understand.

thor2j 12-06-2012 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by kc135rflyr (Post 1305876)
FWIW, I bumped in to CV a week ago and this is what was passed to me from him: nothing is happening until the JCBA is voted in, (I mean on but we all know it will be voted in). That said, at that time the “guess” is that it will take 6 months to SLI. The other “guess” is that based on past %age (50% of 1400 total accepting a recall for the better rates and approx 500 already accepting), this would leave another 200 saying “yes I’ll come back.” At 50/month that takes us Feb, Mar, Apr, May (classes already booked thru Jan)…and you’re now at SLI. Then no longer job offer to CAL b/c CAL no longer exists so begins the true recall…which will take a few months to go thru all the holdouts/mil defer…so if it’s true 200 say “yes, I’ll come back,” then there will be little to no “off the street hiring.” HOWEVER, I truly don’t believe very many more are going to come back to the “job offer” let alone recall as many have been beat up enough in this industry…maybe 100 more but I still doubt that as well. I think with the “hey update your stuff” email, things have changed in a week and I think you’ll be hearing from them soon. If you are the lucking first few…please pass on all gouge to those behind you b/c this is gonna be a brand new program. Good luck!

There are no guarantees that after the SLi anybody will be recalled. If we pass this pos, scope goes to hell and even with retirements it may take a while to catch up. It could be years before everybody comes back.


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