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pilotgolfer 09-26-2012 04:04 AM


Originally Posted by embflieger (Post 1266630)
That's just it, I already came over. Look at it this way: I'm happy to have a job, don't think I'm not. My last gig went bankrupt. But we don't (do we?) get to count our time in training towards "time of service". It's conceivable that not only do I and the other UAL furloughees going to Continental get bankruptcy first year pay, we get to deal with it during training, twice. It takes 14 months or so to get to 2nd year pay. If someone were to have nearly finished their first year at UAL, they presently have to "do it over" at Continental until there's a JCBA. That's up to 28 months at the bottom. And every contract I've ever seen has been top-loaded. One of the instructors last time had this to say about it: "Well, everybody starves the first year."


I started yesterday. The first issue they addressed was the pay for guys who were still on first year pay. They are giving you credit for the number of months you were at United...starting from your hire date. So if you we're there 11 months, then you go to 2nd year pay after you have been at CAL for one month.

UAL SUX 09-26-2012 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by SoCentralRain (Post 1266514)
I'd rather be at 12th year pay instead of 4th year pay, you know what I mean?

We shall see if this TA sees the light of day just exactly what our ALPA negotiating committee thinks of us furloughees.

SCR


Exactly right.

embflieger 09-26-2012 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 1266669)
I started yesterday. The first issue they addressed was the pay for guys who were still on first year pay. They are giving you credit for the number of months you were at United...starting from your hire date. So if you we're there 11 months, then you go to 2nd year pay after you have been at CAL for one month.

Does training count? Would that be one month from your class date, or a month after the check ride?

pilotgolfer 09-26-2012 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by embflieger (Post 1266797)
Does training count? Would that be one month from your class date, or a month after the check ride?

The time starts when you showed up day one in Denver.

CheapFlyer 09-26-2012 09:14 AM

pilotgolfer,

Thanks for the update! I heard about this last week but I contained my excitement with no official communication from the union.

If the people who sign the checks say they are giving us credit then I am one happy camper.

Short Bus Drive 09-26-2012 03:45 PM

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socalflyboy 09-26-2012 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by CheapFlyer (Post 1266840)
pilotgolfer,

Thanks for the update! I heard about this last week but I contained my excitement with no official communication from the union.

If the people who sign the checks say they are giving us credit then I am one happy camper.

Don't wanna burst ur bubble, but wait til they roll your off days. I'm very glad ur back to work..but uch is not your career, it's your job,no mo no less. Smile with the paycheck , but remember, it's just a job right now....post jcba, if its done right we could all be smiling.:)

embflieger 09-26-2012 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 1266801)
The time starts when you showed up day one in Denver.

No, I mean training at CAL. If you spent 11 months at UAL, do you get 2nd year pay after a month in training at CAL, or a month after being released from CAL training?

Short Bus Drive 09-26-2012 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by embflieger (Post 1267127)
No, I mean training at CAL. If you spent 11 months at UAL, do you get 2nd year pay after a month in training at CAL, or a month after being released from CAL training?

First day at CAL is same for longevity/ seniority. SO a month after starting class. That was stated at FAM last week.

mossimo 09-26-2012 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by embflieger (Post 1267127)
No, I mean training at CAL. If you spent 11 months at UAL, do you get 2nd year pay after a month in training at CAL, or a month after being released from CAL training?

He is saying you hit 2nd year pay after one month in training at sCAL. That is my understanding as well.


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