Originally Posted by Regularguy (Post 1291235)

OK here's an answer to two things just posted here.

"Training on days off" refers to getting paid for "distance training." At LUAL the first week of transition training consists of a "Fleet" introduction, CBT (computer based training) of basic aircraft systems and ends with a SKV, "Systems Knowledge Validation." It is not "training on days off" as was stated it is getting "training days" at your home rather than having to travel and sit a a computer screen for a week.

Second LUAL's Trip Trading begins after the monthly bids are awarded and is called the "Big Pick." It is a one time, seniority based, chance to adjust the line award before the moth starts. After the "big pick" starts the trip trading is based on availability to drop, the ability to traded directly pilot to pilot and what's in open flying.

Now the problem with the "list" is when one writes, "training on your days off" he fails to say the pilot do gets PAID DAYS TO DO THEIR TRAINING. It's up to the pilot to deccide which days he/she will actually sit down and do the CBT work. A personal discipline issue.

Spin factories at work on both sides.

Originally Posted by Regularguy (Post 1291600)

CAL73:

If you read the post it was about a UAL pilot who posted the "leaked" stuff and stated the "days off" and pointed it at LUAL pilots not LCAL. We already know about you do "distance learning." I was answering the poster about what the "leak" may have meant by it.

LUAL has been trying to get at home training in the contract for decades the problem always is they didn't want to pay for it.

I understand you get paid for the "training" and it is up to you to either use the scheduled days or days (the other days off) of your choosing. Let me know if I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by syd111 (Post 1291296)

Nope I won't apologize to dal, of course I won't vote this ta in and hopefully our mec won't even send it to us to vote on it. If they do hopefuly we will all vote no folowed by a recall on the folks that sent it to us.

Originally Posted by 757Driver

I'll bet the LCAL MEC comes closer to voting it down then the LUAL side.

Any takers?

Originally Posted by syd111 (Post 1288790)

sure........

Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 1291952)

CAL = 27% No Voters

UAL = 20%

Unfortunately it looks like I win :(

Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 1291952)

CAL = 27% No Voters

UAL = 20%

Originally Posted by cal73 (Post 1291586)

Respectfully Regular Guy,

At LCAL "training on days off" does not mean what you think it means. At CAL its loaded on your schedule as an absence from work, and then your days off are pro-rated to compensate. Not Good. That is not a personal discipline issue.

-cal73

Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1291963)

CAL = 7/4 = 36% No. No?